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  ION: Microsoft's Hanna On The Fight For Shadowrun Audience
by Wendy Despain, Staff
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May 15, 2008
 
ION: Microsoft's Hanna On The Fight For  Shadowrun  Audience
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In a postmortem lecture titled "You Can't Do That! Crossing Platforms and Genres with Shadowrun" and held at the 2008 ION Game Conference, Microsoft Game Studios' Dana Hanna discussed how now-defunct developer FASA Studio lost and regained its audience during the production of its Xbox 360 and PC shooter Shadowrun.

Said Hanna on preparing to finally announce and exhibit the game at E3 2006 after 18 months of development: “We knew there would be some negative reaction from fans of the RPG because we were making it into an FPS, and we knew we had some issues with some of the assets on the way to E3. But we were really quite excited."

"So we showed it. And the reaction was... shall we say, less than stellar," she continued. Followers of the Shadowrun property, originally a pen-and-paper cyberpunk role-playing game, were upset with FASA's decision to make the game a first-person shooter and set it in Brazil.

"Some passionate fans intersected with the gaming press, and it was an 'epic fail.' These were opinion-leaders, and we didn't make a good impression."

Hanna cited several reasons for Shadowrun's less than impressive debut at E3 2006, such as reset art assets, untrained incoming staff, and community people who weren't kept in the loop.

"So why did we go to E3 with what we had? well, we really loved the game. We were actually enjoying the game. We loved it so much we really wanted to show other people and let them in on the fun. We knew once they got their hands on it they would love it."

In order to win Shadowrun's audience back, FASA knew it had to reassure fans and have them discussing the game that was really being made, not the game people thought was being made.

In order to do that, the studio did its best to get people's hands on Shadowrun, hosting on-site play days and releasing a public Xbox 360 beta to regain credibility and show players the actual game.

The developer also listened to feedback from fans of the RPG, incorporating some of their ideas into the story to make Shadowrun fit better into the canon.

Discussing what the team should've done differently, Hanna said the team should have engaged the community earlier, devoted more resources to story and incorporating it into the game, and included more community-building features, specifically measures players could take to deter or deal with troublemakers.

She also regretted that Shadowrun's schedule didn't allow for a PC beta, and said collecting user data from early playthroughs was only "half the battle" in trying to figure out what players were actually doing in the games.

"We couldn't tell people were using the rocket launchers to kill their buddies at the spawn point," said Hanna, who wondered "How do you capture experiences rather than stats? There has to be a better way to track that."

Despite all of the challenges, Hanna praised the team that worked on the game - which launched in May 2007 - and concluded, "Even though the game has its flaws, I still feel like it was the best game I ever worked on."
 
   
 
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Jeff Zugale
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I played the paper-and-dice Shadowrun; it was my favorite RPG by quite a margin, even over ol' faithful D&D.

They made a decent, good-looking shooter, but that shooter could have had just about any theme. It was generic in that sense, and had been done before and better.

The real problem is that they made the wrong game. Shadowrun should have been, and should still be, an MMO. If done to the quality level of WoW, it might be the coolest MMO out there.

Sheesh, you could basically do it just like WoW, couldn't you. Factions, raids, grinding, crafting... just in the Shadowrun world.

I'd play THAT game in a heartbeat, probably for years. Try again, please?

Steve Watkins
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This is a point publishers just keep screwing up - or do intentionally to shoe-horn something into a "hot" genre. Yes, it can be done - but more often than not it flops.

I agree with Jeff - why cross genres with it when you didn't need to? There's such a glut of FPS games. The RPG Oblivion sold like crazy. Shadowrun as an RPG (done well) could have too. Don't license NASCAR and make an Iron Chef game. (Seriously - don't do it. Just walk away.)

A bit of advice:
Quote: "We couldn't tell people were using the rocket launchers to kill their buddies at the spawn point," said Hanna, who wondered "How do you capture experiences rather than stats? There has to be a better way to track that."

Experience. Play the competition's games - Everquest, Halo, Gears, WoW, etc. Observe. There are always groups of end-users that will look for an exploit in each and every object and gameplay aspect in the game. Next time, design an open Beta and tell the players, "Break it. Abuse it. Destroy it."

Robert Vaughan
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A Shadowrun MMO would have to a lot more in depth that World of Warcraft, there are simply way too many intricate details in the Shadowrun world to make it a lowest denominator attracting gimmick game like World of Warcraft.

I've been a dedicated Shadowrun fan since picking up my first hardback rulebook in 1989, I honestly don't believe that any team could do Shadowrun as a MMO well. Not without making it a shadow of it's glory and cutting out a lot of the thigns that make Shadowrun such an attractive IP. I also don't think any current developers have the talent or vision in order to convert Pen and Paper RPGs over to MMO or video game format, most of the ones that have been done were done poorly at best.

Shadowrun as a FPS *could* have been an interesting game to play, I would have played it had it not been a butchery of the Shadowrun Canon. Like you said, that game could have done just as poorly with any other name attached to it, and it probably would have done much better if they didn't attempt to tarnish the name of Shadowrun by releasing a game that had only a rough theme and fantasy races in common with the original.

Leon Leithoff
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I'm another long time Shadowrun player. I think that the existing Shadowrun community was really looking for the first true-to-game RPG. (The SNES game, while an RPG, wasn't necessarily true to the game's rule set.)

I think another thing that has held many players back from playing this game is the release as a DirectX 10, and thus Win Vista, only game. (Currently, I don't plan on owning an XBox 360.) My opinion: If the game was released with a DX9 engine, sales could have been significantly higher.


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