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  GDC Austin: 2D Boy's Carmel On 'Beyond The Finish Line'
by Simon Carless
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September 16, 2009
 
GDC Austin: 2D Boy's Carmel On 'Beyond The Finish Line'
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In an intriguing GDC Austin lecture, World Of Goo co-creator Ron Carmel from indie studio 2D Boy examined the world 'beyond the finish line', discussing what happens after your indie game is released and how to deal with it.

Carmel noted that the main thing about the 'finish line' of completing your independent game is that -- in fact -- there is not a finish line. But you need to prioritize very carefully to make sure your post-launch needs are met.

Some of these priorities are incredibly important, too. For example, post-launch promotions were directly responsible for around 1/3rd of 2D Boy's revenue on World Of Goo, according to Carmel.

In 2D Boy's case, a WiiWare email promotion from Nintendo sold 25,000 copies of the game, a Steam 75% off sale helped push 42,000 copies in one weekend, and the MacHeist 3 promotion helped sell 88,000 copies in 2 weeks. Many of these were at much lower sales prices, but it all adds up.

Looking at distribution strategies, Carmel said that, even with a clear concept, things didn't work out quite as expected. He noted that the Steam sale (75% off) had no effect on 2D Boy's website sales, even though the game was four times as expensive there.

So Carmel believes that individual sales channels (including Steam, WiiWare, your own website, Direct2Drive and so on) seem to run on largely non-intersecting sets of users. As for digital download portals, Carmel said that Steam, Direct2Drive, and Greenhouse were the best partners to work with on PC in terms of relationships.

The 2D Boy co-founder showed a chart with the total relative revenue for the game to date. According to this, in decreasing order, around 40% of 2D Boy's revenue is from WiiWare in North America, around 20-25% PC/Mac/Linux sales from 2DBoy.com, 15% of PC sales from Steam, 12% sales from WiiWare in Europe -- and then smaller amounts from there.

On the pricing issue, Carmel pointed out that the game is $20 on 2D Boy's site and Steam, $15 on WiiWare, and even $7 on casual site Big Fish Games. As it turns out nobody really cares about these variations. But the online community did care about regional variations - with the game being $20 on Steam in the U.S. and 20 Euros on Steam in Europe.

Standing post-release commitments were something that 2D Boy "really buried themselves" in. Some of the things 2D Boy had to do after launch include Mac/Linux ports, a profanity pack, and a European launch with a 6th bonus chapter, as well as a demo. He suggested "this stuff did come back to bite you", and that you should think carefully about what you promise you'll do 'after the game is done'.

Interestingly, 2D Boy originally decided not to do a demo for World Of Goo on PC, after seeing an EEDAR graph that suggested that PS3 and Xbox 360 retail games without demos did better than games with a demo. But the game didn't take off as much until after the PC demo was released, leading to the conclusion that large console games without demos have different rules to PC indie titles with regard to demos.
 
   
 
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Ephriam Knight
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"after seeing an EEDAR graph that suggested that PS3 and Xbox 360 retail games without demos did better than games with no demo"

I think you mean games without a demo did better than games with a demo.

As for that graph, I remember that no data was released for it at all. So there was no way to verify the results for it. For all we know it could have been comparing some crappy games that had a demo vs some highly anticipated game with no demo.

Giuseppe Navarria
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I cannot see how a demo can damage sales, if the game doesn't suck obviously

Simon Carless
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Thanks, Ephriam, we fixed that reference.

Anddy Archer
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A demo can take away sales because the person feels they already played it. Or, the person who just wants to try the game will buy the game if there is no demo, but if there is, they won't--lost sale.

Of course there will be people who buy the game after playing the demo, but those people probably would have bought the game to try it out in the first place.


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