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  Activision And The Indies: How Does This Contest Work?
by Kris Graft [Business/Marketing, Design, Interview, Indie]
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August 18, 2010 Article Start Page 1 of 3 Next
 

Two things that don't necessarily seem to go together: Activision and the indie community. One is viewed as the epitome of corporate game making; the other, a haven for free spirits and pure creativity.

It was a surprise, then, when Activision announced its indie game competition. And sure enough, indie developers were skeptical about the company's intentions, and have dug into its rules and speculated about the company's intent across the web.



Laird Malamed, senior vice president of development at Activision, is the "unofficial champion" of the competition within the company.

Aware of developers' skepticism, he explains the competition to Gamasutra in this interview -- which addresses the corporation's intent with the contest, and what's in store for those developers who eventually win.

This includes issues such as who owns the rights to games which are entered into the competition, why such a huge corporation is taking an interest in indies, and why the contest doesn't allow games that have previously been publicly revealed to enter, among other hot-button issues.  

Why is it important for a big company like Activision to get into indie games?

Laird Malamed: We launched the indie game competition at Activision for two reasons.

One, it's a celebration of our own roots; Activision was founded by people who worked at places like Atari back in the late '70s and early '80s. One of the driving factors for that formation was the game makers were not getting the recognition from the big companies that the time. They were seeing their games sell phenomenally well, but they were not getting known, not participating in that success. From the very beginning, Activision was based on celebrating the game makers as creative and artistic people.

The second reason, which ties back into that, is that for a lot of the great games that have come out over the last few years, a lot of the talent started out making their own games. I would not put myself into the category of "great talent", but what did I do when I learned to program? I made games. That got me passionate about making them and led to having a really cool career.

We want to foster that continued spirit of game making, and one of the ways to do that is to provide some money for the prize winners, that they can support their game, they can make a game with it, they can supplement money they already have and make a bigger game. They can use it however they feel fit.

So we really do it for two reasons: our history is in celebrating game makers, and being driven by game makers; and that we see that there is a ton of talent that develops every day, and is putting games out on a whole bunch of different platforms.

You've said you're the "unofficial champion" of this. How did you get involved in the indie competition?

LM: Absolutely. I am the unofficial champion of this and other things like it. I had a strong streak of feeling responsible, [giving] back to the community, via the game community, or -- I just got back from Gardena, which is South-Central L.A., speaking to a teen group, about 15 kids, in high-risk areas. They've gotten into this entertainment film program for the summer, and they wanted to know about video games. The people organizing it are friends of mine, and they asked me to come down and tell them a bit about video games.

And those activities, speaking at high schools, are a nurturing phase for me personally, that I really enjoy, and that goes all the way to game makers. I was a thesis advisor this past year for USC, for one of the graduate students, her external advisor, and she has just gone off to take a job at Microsoft, so I'm pretty excited about that.

This is just the next rung, from a corporate point of view, of what we can do. Let's try to get the word out, that game makers come in all shapes and sizes. Sometimes they just need a little push.

...My background is in a variety of things. I owe my uncle a great service; he took me, when I was 10, back in 1977, to play games on his mainframe at his bank. There was the classic Adventure and Netrek, which was obviously Star Trek-type stuff. There was no screen, it was a Teletype machine; you'd type into a keyboard and it would type out what you did in response, and I was hooked.

I clamored my parents for an Apple II computer, and they were like, "Well, if you learn to program, more than just playing games on it, then we'll get you the computer." I'm basically a self-taught programmer, and that led to an engineering undergraduate degree, then film school. I was in the film industry for a number of years before coming to Activision to get back to my roots, what had excited me. I've been here for about 15 and a half years now.

 
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nathan vella
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Great to see this getting some coverage - thanks Kris.



There's a couple statements i find very confusing in Mr. Malamed's responses... I wonder if he's reading the comments and would be willing to clarify?

eyal erez
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So if you are planing on submitting a game to IGF or Game-Challenge this year, you are disqualified from Activision's contest? or is it just submission from previous years that are not allowed?

Christian Nutt
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@Nathan, Only way to find out is to ask!

Mark Venturelli
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This is basically a "game idea" contest. It sounds like a really bad idea in many levels.



It's similar to what happened here in Brazil with BRGames last year. There are a lot of talented people out there that are making their first games and are in need of funding, and they have a playable, proven build, or at least a decent prototype.



It's very unwise, in my opinion, to throw money at a "game concept".

Rob Allegretti
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I don't trust Activision at all. They now ARE the big faceless corporation of game development.



Statements like "The only time ownership comes into question is if we decide to publish the game, and there's no requirement that anyone make a game that we would publish" and "Sponsor's development of game concepts that may be similar to entrant's submission" make me think they're just fishing for game proposals and ideas. That at any time they can yank the rug out. They can say "Oh we already had that idea and we're publishing it on our own", and leave the indy dev high and dry.

J Spartan
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I have to agree with much of the sentiment here, as a small up and coming indie myself, with about 20+ years experience of following the games industry, these kind of schemes are often just a process to screw someone over. No way would i ever enter an event with one principle publisher holding the cards, sadly to say especially Activision in their current form. It just sounds like a recipe for disaster. It might not be, but i personally would never use such a system to try to get a game to market.

John Currie
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As someone interested in actually getting a programming position at one these "big faceless corporations," what is you guys' take on the likelihood of getting some type of employment opportunity through this contest? While I pretty much agree when it comes to being wary of offering up my "best idea" to Activision or any company like it, this seems like a great opportunity for a developer trying to get in the industry to at least get their work exposed directly to the company, seemingly more so than through one of the other various game contests out there.



What are your thoughts?

Bryson Whiteman
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I think that would be the ideal situation, and probably where they'll receive most of their entries from. Even though it sounds like an invitation to getting screwed over like in the record industry*, isn't it an amazing opportunity to have a big game company look at game ideas? That's the kind of stuff I dreamed of as a kid. A good chance to get a foot in.



With Nexon having a similar program -- http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/27519/Nexon_Announces_New_1_Million_In die_Dev
_Program.php --I hope that more companies follow suit.



* http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100712/23482610186.shtml

Rob Allegretti
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My take is that, while you may succeed in winning this contest, Activision seems more interested in licensing your concept and making all the profits from it than hiring you as a developer/designer and paying you a salary in addition to your winnings. Honestly, if you win this competition, start your own studio. Hire one or two other good solid devs to help you, or maybe a business-type for pushing your ideas around the industry.



The game industry as a whole - at least where huge game development companies are concerned - seems to be moving toward temporary no-strings contract style of employment. This lets them keep you around if they like you, and kick you to the curb if they can't justify keeping you around with no further reason than "Your contract work's done."



The title of 'winner' from a contest like this would probably make a good addition to a well-rounded resume, or as an example of your work. A good example of your prior work, as well as some experience in the field, are usually the best criteria to have for applying at one of these companies.

Benjamin Quintero
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No offense but ideas are cheap. If someone wants to offer me 50k for an idea i just might have to bite. If you have something built already then take it to IGF. Otherwise, this doesnt really mean anything. That super unique idea you just had? Someones grandmother probably just had the same one, right now. Proof is in the pudding, as they say.

J Spartan
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@ John Currie + Bryson Whiteman, this kind of event i would look at simply being about building your resume. Activision is a vast company, they have a huge pool of talented programmers/developers etc. This kind of event won't simply be about finding new talent for their company as they would advertise for job positions in that case.



But whenever you deal with a big AAA publisher(as a small independent) go in 100% cautious, do your research, see how the companies general reputation holds up, how do they look after their own people? what do people say about them on the internet? Often if the top tier management has a bad reputation that will filter down into shoddy work conditions and shoddy deals for 'small time' people fitting in. It's not always the case, but a good rule of thumb in this industry as it currently stands.



@ Benjamin, yes everyone has an idea for the 'best game evar!'. I hear you. But also in this pretty cut throat industry, as a small fish you need to be very, very careful. This kind of 'support the indie' event hosted by a large single AAA publisher often is simply a way to try to improve their image('look we are supporting the small guys') in the wider gaming community. And remember currently everything 'Indie' is this seasons new black, so i'm sure that isn't lost on the vast marketing departments in companies like Activision.



The terms and conditions of these events are also a big red warning sign to look out for.

Benjamin Quintero
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Dont get me wrong, i dont trust them either :). But the key is to try and exploit anyone as much as they exploit you. Its kind like the little sucker fish on sharks. The sharks promise not to eat them and the suckers get a free meal. Just dont overstay your welcome.

John Currie
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I just read an interesting article that I think is relevant to this discussion:



"Why Your Game Idea Sucks":

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_221/6582-Why-Your-Gam
e-Idea-Sucks


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