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It sounds like, the way you're describing
it, it's almost more of a challenge in terms of content and commitment
rather than actually being a big game design problem. Is that the case?
DE: There are numerous game
design problems, but I would not say that they are insurmountable game design
problems.
Right.
DE: But, I also understand that
writing seems easy to me and sculpture seems hard, because I can do one and not
the other. So, I don't really have a good way to gauge how hard these problems
are. I know there are things we've had to address and we say, "Okay, this
can be done."
The first team that was ever allowed to fully staff up was the writing team.
When we [at BioWare Austin] were a very, very tiny company we were already hiring
writers. And the writers are there first, and they're saying, "Hey, well,
the team is figuring it out."
So,
[creative director] James Ohlen is saying, "This is what I want the game to be," and we're in
there filling in the space. And we're saying, "Okay, this is the
background, and this is what's going on." And we're doing this as the programmers are
starting to think about basic architecture.
Long before any content is there the context has to be there, the stories have
to be there, and that's a huge amount of dedication, and it's a huge amount of
power to give over to something.
The other side of it, is James happens to be a very story‑driven, story‑aware
game designer. And if he was not, and he was aware he was not, then working on
a game like this or bringing in a writer and giving them that much power might
be threatening.
It seems like a lot of the focus is on the sort of class
distinctions. Are you looking to do anything ambitious in terms of a central plot or is
that something that's falsely significant?
DE:
Oh, absolutely. And that's one of the things we talked about, right? The Empire versus the Republic is the plot of our game, in the overarching way
that the same thing was the plot of Star Wars.
But how do you avoid the problem that
every MMO has, which is that things don't actually really change when
it comes to the shared experience that all the players are having?
DE:
Well, again, one of the things that's really important is that the galaxy
is huge. Things can be changing that are amazingly important to your world. What you're doing and what's happening that doesn't necessarily affect
every part of it.
And there are actually amazing, huge changes happening in [places] all over this game world that we don't know about. We always approach the
RPG space as if the thing that's happening in Africa isn't affecting New York,
it doesn't mean anything. And it's just simply not true for storytelling.
I guess that's more relevant in MMOs
because there really are
people all over this universe that are actually real players. Are you
indicating that you might come in contact with different story elements simply by encountering them?
DE: Definitely -- you would go and start talking to somebody and
they would tell you something about the galaxy that you had no idea was true.
They would tell you something about the way the Sith Empire was structured, the
way of what's really happening behind the Jedi Council, that you'd be like,
"Whoa!" And in fact, once you knew that -- the same way that once you
know the moon landing was faked -- it changes your whole perspective on
everything else you hear.
Again, it's why I go back to playing the different classes. It gives you this
great cumulative effect of uncovering what the bigger overarching
stories are and what's happening in the large power structures. These are also things that you'll be getting involved in later on.
So, I mean, are you looking at the
possibility of, through updates or patching or so forth, having big central
tenets of the story revealed?
DE:
Can't talk about it at all.
Fair enough. But, presumably, you will be
retaining a writing team to focus on post launch.
DE:
I am hoping not to be fired when we launch. That is my hope.
I don't know if there are any kind of final
thoughts you had, but...
DE:
No. I think, the big one is just that it is a surmountable
problem. There is not a reason you cannot do a story in MMOs. It is simply a
case of whether you have the talent, the drive, and, honestly, the humility to go
out there and say, "We're going to have to do this. We're going to have to
try it, and we're going to have to revise it and revise it and revise it and
revise it, and test it, and get it in front of MMO players, and get it in front
of RPG players, and learn, and have people yell at you and say terrible things
to you."
Being
the first in any space is always hard. But, if you've got the right people for
it, and you know that that's what you want to do and you are being well‑supported, as we are, then...
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Sorry for the non-sequitur, but: seriously?
I think Daniel addressed that idea with worlds within a greater galaxy. The story the player will be participating in will be significant to the player's particular experience. It's like mini KOTORs happening at the same time for each player. This idea is hugely ambitious and daunting, but it seems to be supported by the amount of work Daniel described the writers doing.
Depending on how this turns out I may finally be persuaded to be part of an MMO.
MMOs in general suffer from this. Why would you labor through legions of monsters to rescue the princess if, two seconds later, another player has to do the very same thing? It's redundant, and takes a lot of the "epic-ness" out of the game. I understand that MMO developers would need to create recyclable content else it wouldn't be cost effective - making a unique experience for essentially one player that can last for a year or more isn't cost effective when you have one million players to provide for, which is why they make the same experience reusable to the next player. It's not as noticeable if you only allowed each player to play through once, or if you forced the player to play alone (as with traditional CRPGs).
I think the problem will be somewhat alleviated with this approach of crafting a different story for each class, but the problem, in my opinion, won't be "fixed" until the big, risk-taking game companies look into intelligent randomly generated content mixed with unique authored story elements.