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Rod Humble On Ethical Game Design And The Challenge Of Free Will
Rod Humble On Ethical Game Design And The Challenge Of Free Will
 

April 20, 2011   |   By Christian Nutt

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"This is the time I'm least certain about the future of games that I've ever been in my entire life," said Linden Labs CEO Rod Humble, as he delivered a Gamasutra-attended talk on that future.

Humble is perhaps best known from his time working on The Sims series at EA, and is also an accomplished indie developer -- notably developing the game The Marriage.

"The way our art form is spreading across the globe, I find it hard to keep track of," he said. "I have to say a lot of things I had hoped would happen, happened. And I think we've made it to the Promised Land," he told the audience at UC Santa Cruz's Inventing the Future of Games symposium.

However, he said, "The main thesis of my talk will be 'let's go back to the desert' -- because we were better off then."

Games Are Art; Ethics Is the Relevant Question

Humble says that games have already, inarguably been accepted as an art form. This "was an amazing victory."

Said Humble, "That was really nice. I don't want to diminish our victory, but a lot of it was us as game designers not really having an understanding of what art criticism is anymore," he said. "The debate now has changed to artists and the works they create, rather than art forms."

Taken that games are already in galleries, he said, "There's a larger question -- does art actually change people? Does it actually have an impact? Because if we're going to be this massive art form then we've got to start thinking about what we're doing."

It's not that games aren't capable of being art -- it's that "the main problem is that we're afraid of our critics," he said, referring to detractors who speak out against the game industry. That's because "There are many critics out there who we believe mean us harm," and say things like "'Yes, you can change people, and it's for the worse.'"

Humble faced this fear, oddly enough, with his game The Marriage. "I started to worry about that feedback, because what about the ones who didn't write me?" He got a lot of positive feedback, but he envisioned reactions such as "I'm worried my husband's like you and he's a dick," or "What if I push my wife around more?"

"Could I break up a marriage? Do I want to do that?" The potential responsibility for his art changing someone's perspective gives Humble pause.

"I've become extremely distrustful of one-way dialogue. Socrates fundamentally distrusted any argument or proposition that could not be pulled and twisted back and forth... And games can do that. Any argument you put forward is inherently interactive," said Humble. "The power of our medium is really frightening to a lot of people."

"I Believe Games Can Change Human Behavior"

We all ourselves, as players, have stayed up late playing games obsessively, Humble suggested. "Us as game designers, we're loving it, but I'm not so sure," he said, wryly.

500 hours of play is the target goal when you design an MMO, he pointed out. And in an experience like that, "We're sitting in there, repeating the same mechanics again and again, with the game face" -- the blank expression many have when playing games. "It frightens me the same way it frightens many of our critics."

Those who rate games, he said, "treat our medium more seriously than we do. I think we in the game industry have this clown nose on, clown nose off attitude." We want to be recognized as art, but when criticized, we say "but it's just a game!"

This may, in fact, be disingenuous, he implied. "I think we can do both at the same time... And take responsibility for it."

Said Humble, "I believe that the structure of the game has a meaning and a message that gets through, and seeps into the player's subconscious, and gets delivered. And whether it can change human behavior or not? I say it does. I believe games can change human behavior."

That is not to say that it's as blatant as some critics suggest. "I've played D&D and war games and shooters all my life and I am not violent," he said. "But I have played games that have entirely changed my outlook, and how I live my life."

That said, "I think it's extremely important to look at it and say how can we take responsibility as game creators. What games should we ethically build? If you are going to be influencing those [players] you have an enormous weight on your shoulders."

In Humble's view, game developers should "follow the tact of art forms before. The most noble art to make is one that celebrates nature and human nature."

Games should explore "issues of power, class, and freedom." As most game designs are currently focused around power struggles, "those rules are very good at expressing power," and thus ripe for exploration.

Humble's Creative Crisis and Rebirth

"I had a real crisis developing [unreleased game] Perfect Distance, which is a game about a man who is in a war and believes he doesn't have any free will. As I went through that crisis I believed that some of the issues I was addressing couldn't have a wide audience."

He's working on a new game that, instead, forces the player to make decisions about how to approach World War II -- including the possibility of playing for the Nazi side (when starting a new game, the player has no choice which side he or she represents, just as those who were born in specific countries were unable to choose their side.)

The character is trapped in a job with no power to change the direction of the war or to directly fight, but must still actively participate in the effort -- and will become cognizant of both the atrocities taking place during the war as it progresses and how his or her actions play out: there's a "fate" at the bottom of the screen. Hanged as a war criminal, or celebrated as hero? You'll always know where you're headed.

As you make decisions, "your fate changes... and you're going to start deciding whether you want your side to win the war. This happened in real life." Real people hedged their bets by brokering deals with the likely victors, or made sure they were uninformed as to what their own side was doing, to avoid consequences later. As you get closer to the end of the war these decisions "become more and more important."

Said Humble, "As people are playing it, they will have another mental model of how that war worked, and my hope is that's a responsible way of proceeding."

The End of Free Will

Humble believes that evolution, as a challenge to religion, will be remembered as the turning point of the 19th century. In his view, the turning point of the 20th century is the increasing understanding that humans are "less and less important in the scope of the universe."

"We're pretty small and we really don't matter," he said, "I think that big wave has seeped into our culture worldwide and we're just beginning to digest it." And, said Humble, 21st century cognitive science suggests that we don't possess much, if any, free will.

"If you believe we do have free will then the evidence is not going well for your team," Humble said. "I think the science as it emerges is going to become so seeped into our culture it's going to hit us, and change our world view. And I want games to help prove that it is wrong. I would like to solve this problem. Because games are all about choices."

He suggested this as a design challenge for the audience: "Is it possible to make games that can only be played by players with free will?"

"It seems trivial and obvious," he said, but worth pursuing -- as would a game that could only be played by players without free will.

And as technology improves and improves, the role of the computer itself in the game could change dramatically, he suggested. "Can the computer make a game on the fly based on your taste? If we can do that, and this is something I think that is going to happen, my issue then is -- if we recognize games are art, and computers make these rules, and it is fun... Then we have a computer-created art form."
 
 
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scott stevens
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Awesome.

Fernando De La Cruz
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Awesome.

John Mawhorter
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well we don't have free will so that's cool

Evan Moore
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He's definitely got the clown nose thing right and the games as a message bit. Interesting bit about free will too.

Stefan Sewenig
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Deep thinking, great text.

Andrew Dobbs
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No free will? Wrong. Yes, we are greatly influenced by nature and society, but we make numerous choices every day. Just because we can't change the universe or the world doesn't mean we can't change ourselves.



I think people also overstate the power of art or entertainment to change one's life. I make decisions primarily by reflecting on the consequences of my own actions. I love books, movies, games, etc, but they hardly impact the way I look at the world.



We aren't marionettes guided by the strings of the universe, and we aren't nearly as limited in our choices in life as we are in a game. I appreciate his emphasis on bringing choices to the fore; hopefully, that helps people realize they are in power...they just need to do good with it.

John Mawhorter
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so the laws of physics don't apply to the material that makes up your brain Andrew Dobbs? but they do everywhere else in the universe? huh?

Mike Siciliano
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"You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice.

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill;

I will choose a path that's clear-

I will choose Free Will."

Edwin Pilobello
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Weak minds therefore weak wills.

Luis Blondet
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There's no Free Will? You mean I can do whatever I want and it's still not my fault and Responsibility is merely an illusion of our primitive monkey brains!?



AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11



Let the PARTY begin!!!!! }>=^D

Rene Argoud
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Well, like most theoritical discussions this isn't going to be something that goes uncontested (and rightfully so) but I felt the tone was more specific than the generic evolution vs creation discussion.



Firstly, Humble seems to be arguing that he would like to help find a solution for the controversial science vs free will conundrum within the realm of game design. (please correct me if I'm wrong.) This was a discussion of ethic's and the overtly moral choices that a game designer must take (MUST because like traditional artforms, videogames do shape the audience as much as the latter does the former.) Art is like a funhouse mirror, it reflects both the souls and minds of the generation it was created in but it's never quite a true mirror image.



I'm going out on a limb here because, truth be told, within the industry I have zero credibility. I aspire to one day work on a project that allows for this type of creativity and downright philosophical ponderings. Kudos, to both Humble and Nutt, for reassuring me that this eras renaissance is alive an well and definately something I must take part in eventually.

l-ren

Josh Foreman
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Cool, if not very organized, thoughts. Free Will... I don't believe in it. It can't be proven. But the concept is obviously necessary for any sort of justice system to work. It's enough that we FEEL like our choices are real and free. Religion Vs. Evolution... Agree that they don't conflict in the least. Only some relatively new fringe Christianities really have a problem with this. And even that is dying down recently. (See Biologos.org)

Luis Blondet
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I see. So Responsibility doesn't exist?

Pooky Amsterdam
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Great speech, we play to be challenged though we can become more aware of our actions, motivations and results through the games we play, we take them into our thoughts throughout the day as it is. Perfect Distance sounds incredible. Using games to explore and promote our humanity is fascinating, and impressive. I will take free will on any platform I can get it, think I have found it on Second Life. Props!

Lisa Ohanian
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I was kind of sad that he skimmed over what I think the most interesting part of this whole thing - what exactly it means for us as developers to have an ethical responsibility. There are many, many different opinions in the philosophy of aesthetics about what kind of responsibility the artist has, and how (and whether) the artist should change or limit their art based upon it.

Jeff Sanders
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Agreed. I think more fundamentally though that concepts starting with a message is gradually being lost. When you start with a message you have an immediate responsibility. Entertainment for entertainment's sake is shallow and easily seen through, but it is obviously selling. Quite disappointing IMO.

Meagan Quimby
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Of course we have free will. Without free will, random mutations, and a certain dose of chaos, nothing would evolve or change. We defy our own bodily impulses daily by waiting to go to a bathroom to relieve ourselves. Yes, I'll admit there is a certain inevitability to things...on a grand scale things happen the way they do within the structure of mathematical equations and chemical formulas. But which path we take is our own. How we function within this framework is our own.

Brian Tsukerman
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I find this to be akin to an argument of "is life a choose-your-own adventure game or a movie?" Unfortunately, because we can't go back to a previous save point to try a different route, we can't actually tell from our perspective, aside from speculation.



I find that the approach predeterminists tend to use to ultimately support their arguments is that we are ultimately a collection of atoms, whose reactions are largely considered to be based off of previous effects and rules rather than the volition of the parts.

Of course, we still get the feeling that we have some control over various events due to the fact that we make choices, but even then one may argue that it isn't common that people make a choice that isn't biased by past experiences of either yourself or others. As such, the choices themselves, though it may appear as though you have many, may end up being pared down to a foregone conclusion based on various constraining rules generated by your past and present experiences.

Even if we were able to choose differently though, our new choice would be based on the information garnered from experiencing the previous choice, much like choosing between doing evil or good in most games that feature such a thing (Fallout or SW:KOTOR).

As such, though we ultimately can't disprove the potential that we may have free will, our current understanding, perceptions, and capabilities support the idea that many of our actions are heavily influenced by the effects of prior actions. Whether that is the ONLY thing that influences it comes down to proving the existence of a soul, or at least some root that imparts matter with a degree of guidance that is currently unexplainable by the idea of action and reaction.

Dan Miller-Schroeder
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We attended the "Inventing the Future of Games" Symposium and filmed Rod Humble's presentation.



View the full presentation here: http://youtu.be/Ly0CsNchFLA

View the post presentation Q & A here: http://youtu.be/d3zpKtMcCXY

Michael Dreyer
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"I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestionable ability of man to elevate his life by conscious endeavor." -Henry David Thoreau



You had me until the "no free will" statement...


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