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This could be mega-huge. Imagine if Microsoft sold the Xbox 720 for $50 with a $30/month for 2 year subscription fee. Sales would explode despite the fact that Microsoft would essentially be selling a $600+ console. And not only that - they'd be getting customers into the online ecosystem from day one which means the possibility of even more revenue from them.
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So it's $459, whether you use your Gold or not. I guess you'll never go broke if you prey on the stupid.
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| Joe Zachery |
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Still if you want to totally take over the North American market from Sony. This is a way to do it, and it just might work.
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| Rodolfo Rosini |
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"Microsoft to undercut competition with surprise $459 Xbox 360 bundle"
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| William Johnson |
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Hm...current Xbox Live is $5 a month if you buy at $60 a year. So that's $120 for 2 years. Plus the current Kinect bundle or $300, that's $420 altogether.
At $15 a month for 2 years, that's $360. Plus $100 for this new bundle, that's $460. That's messed up. You have to pay $40 more for this bundle. That is not a good deal for consumers. So I can easily believe this, because Microsoft would abuse their consumers like that. I hope this fails spectacularly. |
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| Daniel Gooding |
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This is taking a cue from phones and praying on impulse buyers who don't save up for things, but instead live paycheck to paycheck never saving their money.
I have a friend who lives like that. He'll take care of his monthly payments for whatever he owes, then he'll go blast whatever money he has till it's gone. thus he never saves up enough to really buy larger purchases. Usually he ends up having no money for food 3-4 days before his next paycheck, and just lives off of white rice, and Steel reserves. |
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| Rick Kolesar |
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This is also a big push to get people's credit card's set to auto-renew on Gold membership so when the next system comes out, they have more of a reason to stay w/ Microsoft.
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| Ryan Marshall |
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If there's one thing I can't stand, it's selling something at a different price based on what else you buy with it. (Yes, I am staunchly opposed to pretty much any example you can name, and do my best to avoid such so-called "deals".)
I may have once considered purchasing one of these X-Box thingies, but this sort of deception has killed any goodwill I had toward Microsoft's console division. |
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| Benjamin Quintero |
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They were listening to me! (I'll take the credit though the connection is highly unlikely)
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/BenjaminQuintero/20110829/90103/What_Can_Microsof t_Learn_from_the_Mobile_Market.php |
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| Paul Perry |
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In the end, for game developers, specifically XBOX 360 developers, this seems like genius. If more people own the console, there is at least the possibility that there will be many more people who will be able to buy games!
What's next? Buying AAA games over three month time-frame? Instead of a one time $60 payment, it will be three $25 dollar payments? |
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| Robert Boyd |
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In an extreme case, I could even see Microsoft selling consoles through an installment plan at a loss. It's often worth the immediate sacrifice if it means you can quickly build up an install base of customers who own your system and will then proceed to buy games, accessories, and online content. Plus, the faster you build up an install base, the easier it is to convince developers and publishers that they should make games for your system.
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| Dan Eisenhower |
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This seems like a smart idea for bolstering what services XBL provides. If they used this business model to turn it into a Netflix esque streaming service, or say providing access to a popular MMO, I'd be all for it. But knowing Microsoft, I imagine they will just use it to swindle consumers.
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| JP Clifton |
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I doubt they would do this with their next xbox. How could they handle selling a system at such a huge loss for 2+ years, no investor would be happy about that.
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| Nicholas Muise |
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There are retail implications for this are there not? How is the initial sale conducted and the contract processed? What sort of a cut will retail have, or are they expected to absorb the cost of selling contracts in store?
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| Eric Geer |
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I may have taken up this offer if it wasn't the shitty 4GB model...
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| Bob Johnson |
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It's a deal for the stupid. Maybe it will be successful.
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| E McNeill |
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"The subsidized $15 a month subscription service... could possibly also include access to streaming content from cable or sports package providers"
That's the important part, I think. Xbox Live Gold isn't going to be a big seller to the crowd that's focused on games, but I could imagine this being huge if they can include other popular services. |
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| Jacob Pederson |
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Gold is barely worth $5 a month . . . at 15$ its a cell-phone style gouge. Don't own a cell-phone, and wouldn't own this :)
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| Johnathon Swift |
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Subscription to what?
Not that I don't think the whole monthly payment system isn't genius. People are proven time and again idiotic enough to overpay massively when such schemes are present. But you still need a subscription "to something" to get them to do it. Actually, I see a possibility in the 720. Say it has an LTE modem. Say then it's "subsidized" for $100-200 on a two year contract for Verizon LTE. Say then Microsoft and Verizon high five each other all the way to their own Caribbean island chains for company vacations. |
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| Craig Page |
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If they could also offer HBO, they would conquer the world with their bundle.
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| DanielThomas MacInnes |
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What is going on here? Am I the only person who thinks this is a damned ripoff? A $99 videogames console that is really over $400, even though the system will be retired next year for the Xbox III?
Just wait until next year, when your Xbox3/PS4 will be tied to an online account (and multi-year contracts), and used/borrowed games won't run, and downloads can be altered or taken away from you without notice (thank you, EA). Let's also toss in third-party online services that are required before you can play your $60+ game, which will lock away more and more content behind DLC gates. Oy vey, this is going to be fun. |
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| Dave Smith |
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did i wake up in insanity land?! how is this a good idea again? ugh
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| Geoff Yates |
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For people who want the simplicity of a 2 year plan I'm expecting its a great idea. People do it all the time with celluar companies. So to do anything actually decent you going to need the hard drive. To add the hard drive still costs a bomb which is "gouging".Increasingly though we see more and more folks becoming burdened with dozens of monthly payments which become overwhelming. Unfortunately there is still not enough education and corporate responsibility to stop it.
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| Stuart Brown |
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2 years is a long time to be tied to a videogame system about to be replaced. When the next X Box comes out, they will have to offer something extra to encourage current owners to upgrade - will this be available to people on this contract?
Though it is not in this article, the offer is available through Microsoft stores, not general retailers. That, more than anything else, will blunt the success of this. |
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| Harlan Sumgui |
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meh. poor people will get this. poor people don't buy a lot of new games.
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| Patrick Davis |
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This is another one of those things that is great for casual gamers and definitely good for business. But, what about people who just want to game? We are clearly starting to be forgotten. Live already charges you more because of the extra crap they have for the people not gaming. But, I don't have a choice to not pay for it if I want to play online.
This is starting to look like cable television. The one channel you really want to watch is embedded in a bundle of crap channels you don't care about. But, if you want it, you have to buy the bundle of crap. I have never bought any of my game consoles based on the extra "stuff" it can do. I buy them because they are required to play the games I want to play, and this is still what I use them for 95% of the time. I love playing online games, but that is all I do with it. I shouldn't have to pay a premium price because some guy wants to watch ESPN on his game console. If this is the way the next wave of consoles is going to be, I can only hope the Wii U delivers since Nintendo seems to be against charging for online services. You can guarantee the PS4 will be similar to live and also not have free online, and I'm not going to get sucked into Microsofts crap. |
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