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  GDC: The Future of Story In Game Design
by Mathew Kumar [PC, Console/PC, GDC, Design]
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February 21, 2008
 
GDC: The Future of Story In Game Design
In this conflict-filled panel on the future place of stories within game design and (therefore) the place of writers in development teams, Deborah Todd tried to keep a group of developers, including the ever outspoken Denis Dyack (Silicon Knights) and Matthew Karch (Saber 3D) from turning their verbal sparring on the importance of story into physical.

Karch opened humbly with “I’m not an icon,” motioning to the rest of the panel including Matt Costello (Polar Production and The 7th Guest) and Tim Willits (id Software), “but I’m pleased to be here.”

He quickly, however, began the confict, stating boldly, “I think story should serve the gameplay, and not the other way.”

Dyack quickly countered: “Games are the eighth art form: the glue is interactivity, and that aspect is something that makes our industry unique and there’s a huge misconception at this industry is that gameplay is everything. These people are going to be mistaken.”

“And as this industry matures content and story, as it did in the 30s and 40s with cinema, will become dominant,” he finished forcefully.

Costello agreed: “Games have not developed in the same way but I could not agree more strongly that they have to.”

Willits felt the differences between the industries were to big: “Working with a designer and a team is very different from the way you make a movie. Movies are a consistent process compared to how dynamic game creation is.”

When it came to stories in games, he felt that while the processes would always be different, “the key is starting early.”

Karch agreed: “I agree it’s very important to get a writer involved at the start of the process, we learned that on Timeshift. But in the shooter genre, which I’m in, I don’t think anyone really cares about the story. I don’t think in some genres it’s especially important.”

Dyack couldn’t agree: “In 5 to 10 years I don’t think there’s going to be a shooter genre. It’s going to be more literary: there will be horror, drama … a shooter would just be ‘action’.”

To a chorus of laughs, Willits quipped, “You know, we invented the first person shooter,” but felt that he’d “like to see the genres (FPS, RPG) go away. Having labels for games, I think, is putting too many of us into boxes.”

The conversation developed into an argument about Jerry Bruckheimer, with Dyack dismissive of the concept that games should be brain-dead action flicks, while Karch argued “It’s McDonalds, and people like McDonalds.”

Costello insightfully noted that in a big-budget blockbuster, even in the action genre, “They work out that story beat by beat so there are compelling things happening all the time -- right down to the rhythm of the car crashes. So every two or three minutes you’re feeling the pull that tugs you along. Games can do the same thing. I think some do!”

But Karch returned to his feelings that “people don’t play Halo for the story. We can pretend that we want to elevate the art form to Shakespeare-type classics, but…”

Dyack cut him off to mock: “Matt is asking everyone if they’d like it ‘supersized’.”

Karch wouldn’t let go, however, and took on Half Life 2: “a story driven game where during the lovely interactive cutscenes you can walk around and hump the wall: how realistic is that?”

Dyack spotted what he felt was a flaw in the argument: “you’re confusing the execution of content delivery with story. ‘aliens coming through a portal’ is not earth shattering to me.”

Willits, in what was assumed by some in the audience as a shot at Dyack, said: “Some of these game designers take themselves so seriously: but where are the sales?”

Dyack passed on a message: “Bioshock and Mass Effect say hi. You can have deep stories or you can have bubblegum -“

“I’ll take bubblegum” finished Karch.

Costello was more diplomatic. “I would argue that Doom has a story: there are monsters and they want to kill you. That is extremely compelling”

The argument returned to a discussion of when the writer should begin to be involved, with Todd mentioning a time when she met a developer who told her they were just ready to hire a writer: “we just finished programming yesterday.”

Mary DeMarle, the narrative designer at Eidos Montreal felt that the writer must be “embedded in the production team.”

Costello re-entered the conversation to return to some more comparisons with the film industry, imagining a Hollywood conference where a panel argued who was king of the film making process: the script writers? The set designers? The gaffers?

“It’s all part of what we do. They’re something that should come together and mesh together as one new medium. But here’s the argument that I would make about against having a writer on staff. If you want to get a game based on horror, you want a writer that knows the beats, but you’re not going to get someone like that full time,” and queried why you would want that, if your next game wasn’t horror based?

Dyack asked: “But how many people have great experience in writing horror for video games?”

In conclusion, the panel presented their own final thoughts individually, with Willits, in particular, noting one of the points that they returned throughout the panel: that it was imperative that the “writer be involved in the process as early as possible.”
 
   
 
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Jehanzeb Hasan
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I can’t help but agree with Denis Dyack here. I’m not sure if it’ll happen within 5 to 10 years, but I can certainly see traditional video game genres being realigned into the same categories we organize film and literature -- horror, drama, action/adventure, etc. There is an increasing amount of hybridity in the industry -- consider the RPG elements of BioWare; the third-person, squad based combat in Mass Effect; the RTS/FPS combination found in Savage 1 & 2; etc., etc., the list goes on...

Jehanzeb Hasan
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*BioWare=BioShock. :)

leon lubking
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Coincidentally, Ken Levine (the creator of the story for BioShock) was interviewed in an article posted the 20th.

Quoting: "If you want people to follow your plot it has to be really fucking stupid."
And further trying to prove the point that narrative design should be more focused on delivering itself via the setting and environment rather than non-interactive ways (cut scenes and such).

Seems to be a middle-way in the discussion featured in this article, and in my opinion seems like the way to go.

Deborah Todd
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Our intention with this panel was to mix it up, and we succeeded in aces. Differing opinions and strong ideas make great discussions. Conflict and comedy make it a great ride. And we had it all in this session. The feedback in the halls of GDC has been tremendous, as reported on all fronts (except for one blogger who wanted to see a panel run by Roberts Rules of Orders. If I wanted boring, I would have picked other panelists, like maybe that blogger.).

I wanted sizzle with this panel, and I got it. This debate was hot. It had spice. It had complexity. And it had a unifying theme weaving throughout. Story. Put it in your games. Bring in professional writers. Do it at the very beginning of the process. These are points we all agreed upon. Even Karch? Absolutely even Karch. Get the recording - you'll hear it.

How do you get people excited about a session on Story at 9 a.m. after a night of major parties at GDC? Bring in Costello, DeMarle, Hall, Dyack, Karch, and Willits. I knew full well how exciting this could be when I asked them to be on the panel. I knew, when we all met the day before our session to go over issues, that this panel would be one for the record books. And I think the audience had that insight, too. The place was packed – standing room only. This panel was historic. Thanks to the panelists for being real and for taking a stand on what they believe. They have the experience to back it up and the guts to declare what they see for the future of our industry. And thanks to everyone who came up to me in the halls and on the streets saying they loved it BECAUSE we mixed it up. It was great fun. And GDC rocks.



Chris Dodson
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I would like to add that Ken Levine also went on to make the point that he believes that story can occur on three levels, from the "stupid" main objective down to a mid level then to a tiny details level, but you don't force these onto the player. Thus the game can offer story on whatever level you desire. Methinks this is good wisdom.

(Boy, this topic seems to be the "religion and politics" subject of the game industry.)

Mark McMilllan
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I think life is a story, and games, like art or movies, mimic life.

I am surprised that the panel didn't acknowledge that some things, like playing a sport, don't require a story. It is rather that actual game play itself along with an element of competition that is the focus. I think that computer games, like sports, will always have players wanting to play.

With that said, people seek out a good story, which is why people want to see movies, of whatever genre. They want to identify with the characters in the movie or game that they are watching/playing. The lack of a believable plot leaves the movie/game relying on the adrenaline rush that it can generate and not much else. There is a place for that, but the great films that people talk about, like the great games, will pull the audience in and leave them wanting more when it is over.

Ryan FitzGerald
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Even as a writer, I'm one of the first people to suggest that not every game *needs* story. I also object to the me-too-ism of saying that "everything has story." Making story a natural byproduct of any creative endeavour diminishes the craft.

The analogy to cinema of the 30s and 40s is apt, but even more so is an analogy to pre-1917 cinema. Until film developed its own grammar, the early adopters insisted that cinema would never be good for anything other than banana peel gags and slap-stick humour.

We're getting there -- but even though I'm that writer guy that doesn't think story belongs in *every* game, if you're that game design guy that thinks story *never* belongs in a game, you risk looking pretty foolish bragging about your highly-detailed weapon renderings in a couple years if that's all you've got in the box.

Ole Steiness
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The importance of story in a typical shooter can be argued, but let us not forget that without a goal the player has very little incentive to go trough the levels. Sure, the shooting is fun, but you need a bigger, long-term goal than just pumping bullits into the nexst zombie.
But gameplay can be an essential part of that story, too. The goal itself could be to "find out what menacing boss activated this horde of enemies" and then find and destroy him/her/it at the end of the game.
Doom, indeed, had a story, and it lured you through every level of the game... If not to find the reason behind the invasion, then just to learn what kind of horrible creatures the arch-enemy would end up throwing at you, and how you would defeat them. That is both story and game play.


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