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Awesome but it doesn't change anything as it must be a unanimous vote by the attorney generals to take effect and Atkinson is clearly going to vote no and veto the whole thing like usual.
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| Ben Droste |
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That's a very pessimistic attitude to take. What you say it true: no matter the outcome of this consultation Atkinson still has the power to veto the vote. However this is the Australian public's chance to to show just how much support there is for an adult rating. If it turns out there is overwhelming support and he still opposes it, then it becomes clear he's acting on a personal bias and not in the interest of the people he's supposedly representing.
If that happens, where we go from there I don't know, perhaps we start writing to the Prime Minister himself to complain about the insult to democracy. |
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| Mat Bettinson |
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Nathan Hill is right that it only takes the South Australian attorney general to stand firm to scupper any action. However if it transpires that the rest of government thought otherwise then this would be rather a lot of pressure - possibly even calling into question the need for constitutional reform.
Either way, there is at least a process now. |
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| Matt Ross |
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Oh Adam, if only you knew...
As Ben and Nathan say, it requires a UNANIMOUS decition from all state attorney generals in order for the rating to get passed. all agree to pass it except ONE of them. the South Australian one. So one man can impose his personal view on the entire Country, and only people in his electorate in SA have any direct power over whether he remains or not. They don't even get to vote for him to be AG, only MP, and then someone just picks him to be AG, no one outside the state has the power to vote for his position or the position of anyone who leads to his election as AG, This is something that he personally has actually taunted us with! If this was a real democracy, this issue would have been resolved years ago, and the paper would never have been necessary. Why do STATE AGs get together to decide national issues when we have a Federal Government? I don't know. Why do things like going to war and plunging the country into debt require only a majority decision and something as simple as this requires a unanimous one? I don't know... This is just my understanding of the situation, please correct me if i'm wrong. |
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| Saul Alexander |
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It's a very positive step. The fact that they have even released this discussion paper is evidence that public pressure is mounting to get this changed. It has been all over the mainstream media over the last couple of months (and particularly this week), and as such is gaining much more popular awareness. It's true that Atkinson will still be able to scupper this based on his own prejudices, but even he may be forced to fall into line if the public pressure becomes widespread enough.
On top of that, there's no guarantee that Atkinson will remain the South Australian Attorney-General for much longer. While the current government is likely to win again at the March election, and he is likely to retain his seat, there is nothing to say that there won't be a cabinet reshuffle after the election. Atkinson is currently being probed on unrelated corruption allegations, which is not a good look for an AG. If this games rating story becomes big enough, and more people start to notice the idiocy of his position, it could add to the argument for pushing him off to a different position in the government. Every Australian gamer and developer owes it to themselves to make a submission. |
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| Leigh Browne |
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"Australia Attorney General Michael Atkinson..." Still burning the midnight oil on thorough and in-depth research i see.
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| Matt Cramp |
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So what you're saying is that the American government would never do anything like this because the American government wouldn't do anything?
(The unanimous decision on making classification changes comes about because the Federal government took over control of what was previously a state responsibility.) But anyway, this is very positive, and it's our best shot, short of invading the SA elections, of redressing (at least one of) the problems with the classification scheme. |
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| Doug Poston |
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@Adam: The US government has plenty of faults, but they do listen to feedback (especially when it comes from organized groups of people).
If you a really interested in an issue, there are more ways to get involved in changing things than just sitting back and voting every 2-4 years for the lesser of two evils. |
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| Doug Poston |
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@Adam: As game developers and players, the people on this website are a 'special interest group'. And there are organizations we can belong to, like the ESA (http://www.theesa.com), that influence policy.
Like I said, the US government has plenty of faults, but its not hopeless. At least we're free to buy mature rated titles. |
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