| Dave Smith |
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sounds like Activision wanted to whore Modern Warfare into oblivion and IW didnt want to. good for them. just go start another great studio somewhere else.
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| Andre Gagne |
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@Bob
Steam? |
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| Michael Will |
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"But it makes clear one unfortunate downside to success: The game industry is a business, and when success is high, the stakes get higher."
Really? That's the moral to your story? I know you wrote it but maybe you should read it again. The moral I got from it is don't work for a dictator who views creativity as purely a prospect of profit and loss, who uses snake oil tactics in order to wiggle it's way out of contracts and who sees creators of billion dollar franchises as cogs in a wheel that can easily be replaced. |
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| Dave Smith |
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well i guess the problem just corrects itself eventually. big publisher buys studio, kills the franchise and fires employees, employees start new killer studio, big publisher's stock tanks, and repeat.
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| Bob Stevens |
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So we have two contradictory suggestions as to what may have happened from sources "close to the situation." Why even bother finding sources close to the situation if you're going to end up with an article full of speculation?
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| Mark Raymond |
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Yeah, Dave. There is a certain sense of history repeating itself. EA did the same thing with Medal of Honour and 2015 – the latter of which who then went on to found another little-known studio...
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| Ary Monteiro Jr |
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Now with the two bosses out: Modern Warfare 3 will be handled by another studio, or Activision will cancel Infinity Ward's new IP so they milk the MW cow...
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| Matt Mihaly |
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Steam is a distribution method, not a publisher. As the saying goes, someone has to put up those billboards in Singapore, and Steam isn't going to help them with that.
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| Valentino Zamarripa |
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"Proof that developers need to get together and form their own publisher,"
*points to Activision's wiki page to remind people of their history with Atari.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activision |
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| Alex Beckers |
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"Activision has a history of using legal muscle to get the better end of its agreements, as it did with [...] the DJ Hero battle that caught Scratch developer 7 Studios in the crossfire. "
This isn't entirely accurate. That lawsuit was filed by Genius against Activision and 7 Studios. I wouldn't think that Activision defending itself against a lawsuit counts as "using legal muscle". |
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| John Mawhorter |
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It seems like the insubordination allegation may not be fair, but it all depends on the terms of the contract and I certainly don't have a copy to look at. I would guess that Activision is just trying to retaliate because Infinity Ward is sick of making Call of Duty games...
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| ken sato |
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An interesting idea but there are more historical references to failed creative/development publishing entities in just about all aspects of industry. There just isn't enough revenue to keep production robust or profitable. Eventually what happens is that you have some dickering over returns that reduces your profit margin and a larger focused entity steps in for a fire sale as they can offer better returns at the studio level. Then you're caught in supporting a publishing company that takes a substantial risk for very little return. If you're a studio head, you're going to take the option that generates the most return for work done and maximize your profitability.
An option is to self-publish, but there's still the high end marketing cost to consider. Then there's distribution, operations such as replication and storage and transportation and securing self space, world wide contracting, strategic market placement, securing assessment to revenue returns, monetizing over street to fiscal returns, and that's not including on-line requirements which can draw in even more departments and personnel. I don't doubt it can be done, I just doubt that it can last that long or profitable. |
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| John Mawhorter |
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Besides CoD may be a bit saturated now, not that many people won't buy it. Oh and a new Infinity Ward property would probably make tons of money as well, so I'm not sure I see Activision's logic in making these moves.
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| Alex Covic |
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Of course, "history repeats itself", but what lesson is here to be learned?
As a coder you already have to be a lawyer, so you don't 'invent' code that is already patented, or use code that may or may not be threatening your project, but wait - there's more! If you are a successful video game studio with talented people, who work their asses off for months and years - treat them as 'commodities' - shove them around, make them liable for everything you, as an umbrella company, fail to achieve. Turning from a publisher into a planet of darkness - way to go, Darth Kotick. What company was it, that had more lawyers than developers one day... something with "Micro" in it, cannot remember... |
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| Wade Steel |
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What I don't understand is the references in the article to a "contract" between Activision and Infinity Ward.
Why would there be a contractual arrangement between the two entities when Activision completely owns Infinity Ward as a result of the acquisition in October 2003? I can understand if the reference is to an employment contract between Activision and the IW principals, but not the IW entity itself. |
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| Derek Smart |
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Someone figured that firing the heads of a billion dollar producing studio for insubordination was a good idea. My guess is that whoever made that decision is going to be out of job in less than a year. Never fails.
There are always two sides to a story but still, using a sledgehammer (see what I did thar?) to swat a fly never ends well. |
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| Dave Smith |
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@Jeff. the problem is they arent running it as a smart business. they are running it into the ground for shor-term profit, like they did with GH, at the expense of the long term. the stupidity shown by these suits time and time again destroys jobs. people have every right to shout "how dare they!"
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| Jason Taylor |
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Jeffrey your point makes no sense. MW2 had the best launch in entertainment history, generated over 1,000,000,000 in revenue. IW was insanely profitable as a studio. Activision wasn't "cutting the fat". They're one of the most profitable single game studios in the history of game development, if not THE most.
Activision tried slimy tactics to wriggle out of their contract to get IW to make MW3 for them instead of their contractually obligated new IP. When IW refused to bend and followed the contract Activision used even slimlier tactics to fire the studio heads. |
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| Kevin Reese |
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It's a double-edge sword, sure; but one edge is sharp, one is dull.
Would anyone not choose a record-breaker over a mediocre hit? |
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| James Fudge |
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The moral of the story is don't let publishers buy your studio or lock you down.
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| Robert Gill |
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Tensions have been running on for quite some time.... Since about '08. You would think that the Emp-sorry- Activision Blizzard would give CoD a breather, much in the vain as EA has done.
BTW if anyone is gonna want a source on the above statement about tensions, which is probably gonna happen, uncle worked there as a programmer. CoD and CoD2. He keeps up the ties with his old work buddies there lol |
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| Ian Fisch |
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This is interesting. I wonder if Activision violated the implied good faith provision inherent in most contracts when they demanded Infinity Ward make layoffs just so they'd have a reason to void the contract when Infinity Ward refused.
Then again maybe the contract said that Activision could demand layoffs without having any legitimate reason. |
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| John Mawhorter |
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This not only makes Activision look evil, but it's probably also a stupid business decision in the long term, if not short term.
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| Yannick Boucher |
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"Proof that developers need to get together and form their own publisher," *points to Activision's wiki page to remind people of their history with Atari.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activision" That's the best, most ironic fact anyone could possibly have pointed out. That's why I say get real to "developers getting together to form their own publisher". Because they then become... guess what ? Publishers. |
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| gus one |
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Amen bong.
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| Yannick Boucher |
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""Here's the real moral of the story: he who pays the bills gets to call the shots."
Well, I don't know about you, but to me, looks like IW sure is helping pay a lot of Activision bills..... |
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| gus one |
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Zampella and West thought they were invincible. Funny how people defend them when clearly they were arguing for a bigger and greedier slice of the pie - they have already made a phenomenal amount of wealth. They played hard ball thought the world evoled around themselves and now they are out on their arses. Good riddance. They didn't write the MW1 & 2, stories, design the levels, draw the art etc. They just swaggered around wallowing in their wealth actling like complete c***s. A change at the top does not change anything below. Great games will still be made by the people who actually make the games. Anyone wishing to release new IP this year in this market must be mad. It just does not create the same level of return that a good sequel does.
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| John Woznack |
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@Derek - I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts that Bobby made the decision to fire Zampella and West himself. And I seriously doubt the rest of the Board of Directors at Activision are going to take any action against Bobby other than to nod and continue doing business as usual.
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| Chris Kaminari |
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@Christian Keichel
Is that NPC accurate? If Activision really did lose money that bad on the last quarter of 2009 with one of the biggest video game openings in history....your right, how the hell are they suppose to make money? And it sounds like Infinity Ward is pulling a Bungie, but are more or so gonna get screwed instead. |
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| Ted Brown |
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That (alleged) legal maneuver with the order to trim staff, knowing they'd push back, is one to remember.
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| David Howell |
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@Christian Keichel
I don't think it's an accurate reflection of the quarter as the $286m loss was on a GAAP basis, which cannot include revenue not yet received. Much of the revenue from sell-through in that quarter won't appear until the following quarter (the current one). //------------------------------------ Activision CEO Bobby Kotick said in a statement, "We delivered better-than-expected calendar year non-GAAP financial results and our fourth quarter non-GAAP net revenues and non-GAAP earnings per share were the highest in company's history." "On a non-GAAP basis, our performance enabled us to deliver the most profitable year in our company's history and record operating margin. We generated approximately $1.2 billion in operating cash flow and ended the year with approximately $3.3 billion in cash and investments." //------------------------------------ |
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| Tim Carter |
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@gus simpson
"Anyone wishing to release new IP this year in this market must be mad. It just does not create the same level of return that a good sequel does." Sounds like you're into the vision of game development as a sausage factory... |
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