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  Rebellion CEO: Canada's Tax Breaks Drive Slow UK Brain Drain
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September 7, 2010
 
Rebellion CEO: Canada's Tax Breaks Drive Slow UK Brain Drain

As the UK's game industry continues to lobby its government to reconsider tax breaks for game developers, Canada's enticing incentives are indeed impacting local studios, says Rebellion CEO Jason Kingsley in a new Gamasutra feature.

But the migration isn't happening immediately -- it's taking place in a slow drain as UK companies slowly and quietly shift over to Canada, he explains.

Though he declined to name specific studios, the CEO of the 19-year independent game developer says some UK companies are "slowly draining the life out of their domestic business through a slow transition, rather than suddenly pulling up stakes and moving across the Atlantic."

Kingsley described a gradual transition wherein a large share of recruiting is transitioning over to the Canadian branches of UK companies. "When people leave the UK, management doesn't bother to fill those particular spots," he points out. "As a result, developers are slowly moving their center of gravity over to Canada without anybody noticing."

"All of a sudden, the company's CEO starts spending more and more time in Canada. It's just a gentle way of moving without packing up in the darkness of night and heading west."

Kingsley says Rebellion is sustaining through increasing adoption of an outsourcing model "in order to switch production on or off as needed without having to add to or trim our staff." In fact, the company has made staff cuts earlier this year, closed its Derby satellite studio, and has not been actively recruiting recently.

But Kingsley says that might change soon -- given the struggles of other local studios, as with the recent closure of Realtime Worlds, there are many talented employees out of work and hoping to stay in the UK that Rebellion would like to hire.

The CEO takes a moderate stance on the tax breaks; although he says his studio "would have enjoyed them immensely," there's little option now but to "get on with running our ruddy businesses and make them successful as best we can."

The full Gamasutra feature goes in-depth on the state of the UK industry, the tax breaks issue, and competition in the global marketplace.
 
   
 
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gus one
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If I could move to Canada I would be on the first plane going there. Games are global now. It does not matter where the head office is and the grunts can pretty much be anywhere. Witness ERTS and ATVI shifting more and more jobs over to cheaper countries in the far east. Staying in the UK just costs more and you get less for your money. Not to mention the low quality education/ degrees standards these days. The introduction of the GCSE back in the late '80s heralded the death of education in Britain. Now every kid living School and University gets given a piece of paper telling them they are a genius whether they like it or not....

Alan Rimkeit
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Are you championing companies moving all the jobs to the far east? Really? Because there are lots of people here in America that need to make a living doing what we do. Not everyone relishes the idea of living in places like Singapore or even Montreal. It is really COLD there. :(

Arnaud Clermonté
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Yep, 25°C today, and partly cloudy.
Unbearable!

Jane Castle
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Gus so your idea to save money on development is for example to ship all development of Call of Duty to China, India and\or Bangladesh? I couldn't even begin to imagine ATVI's shock and surprise when they receive the finished product....

Ephriam Knight
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"I couldn't even begin to imagine ATVI's shock and surprise when they receive the finished product.... "

They would probably say, "Alright, you guys managed to keep up with our yearly sequel plan. Here is another project for you."

Alan Rimkeit
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@"Arnaud Clermonté

Yep, 25°C today, and partly cloudy.
Unbearable!"

Yah, and during the winter time is is very deep in snow. O.o I know it is a pretty place and very nice to live, but it is just not my cup of tea. Snow is not a good thing for me....

Jonathan Jennings
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LOL I think ephraim knight hit the nail on the head lol.

gus one
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ERTS target is 20% of employees in cheap labour countries. All the back end coding can be done over there and all your creative in the West (if you don't think the East of creative or good level designers etc). People need to rememeber they are very clever over in India etc and very well educated and will do the job for £12k p.a. In England working in Mcdonalds pays more than that. Cost benefit analysis.

Alan Rimkeit
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Yes Gus, and thus laying off 20% more Canadians, Europeans, or Americans who need those jobs to feed their families or support themselves. Remember about globalizing us all out of our jobs. Including yourself one day.

nathan vella
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Great additional reading for this, via Jason Della Rocca

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/29311/Interview_Jason_Della_Rocca_On_Breaking
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rob bridgett
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I just don’t buy that the migration of developers to Canada, and indeed elsewhere, is linked solely to tax breaks. Speaking from my own experience, as someone who left the UK to live and work in Vancouver seven years ago (not the recipient of provincial tax breaks for games until very recently this year) my reasons for moving to Canada were based almost entirely around quality of life (cost of living / housing / lower crime rates / family friendly culture etc) and the sheer concentration of developers in Vancouver. If the UK could compete on quality of life, then it might be able to offer some allure to developers wishing to make a positive move. UK tax incentives might give the developers a little more breathing room in their operating margins, but (I’m being cynical here) I doubt these savings will trickle down to the salary levels of the devs themselves.

Lo Pan
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When I used to visit England on games business from the USA, I was always shocked how expensive everyday items were. I naturally assumed my colleagues there were making 20-30k more to compensate the ultra high cost of living. Imagine my shock when I was offered a job and found that my salary in pounds converted to USD was actually 5k less.

Living on that beautiful island is damned expensive!

Alan Rimkeit
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Living in most of Western Europe is very expensive my man. You have to head out to Eastern Europe for it to get cheaper. :D Poland and such are very nice.

Danny Grein
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Well.. I'm moving to Canada.


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