"I
guess I like being a contrarian," says Bing Gordon, who was the chief
creative officer at Electronic Arts -- having started with the company in 1982
-- but left over a year ago for leading venture capital firm Kleiner, Perkins, Caufield & Byers (KPCB.)
That's the
company behind the $100 million iFund, which seeds third-party iPhone
development, established last year in partnership with Apple. He's also member
of the boards of Zynga and and the iFund-backed ngmoco, two companies that concentrate on the newer
outgrowth of the games business, in casual, social networking, and iPhone.
You'll
find some of Gordon's contrary ideas
below -- suggestions for taking the spiraling costs of game development
and wringing consummate profits out of them; concepts for changing the way
companies are run, and why every company "needs a Will Wright" on
their executive team.
Gordon
has stepped aside from the gaming space, to an extent -- as he admits -- but he
still has experience and perspectives on the business, business in general, and
culture that are relevant to studios creating the games of today, and striving
to create the games of tomorrow.
Why did you decide to join a
venture capital firm? Is that rewarding for you so far?
Bing Gordon: Yeah, for me, I like mentoring high energy, high potential people,
and I like hanging out with smart peers. And I kind of knew of Kleiner Perkins,
some of the principals there for 25 years, I've always admired them.
Has it been working out for you?
BG: Yeah, I like it. I like it. Better than I hoped.
Well, that's good.
BG: I like the value systems at this particular firm, and it's kind of
interesting, the entrepreneurs who we get to meet. And the conversations about
the partners are brilliant. I had this "Aha" a while ago on the
Amazon board. You only want be on board, and you only want to work in an
organization, where you'd pay to be in the meetings.
[laughs]
BG: Or you'd pay to have dinner or lunch with the people. So, that's working
out.
Talking specifically of the game
world, what makes sense to invest in now, in your opinion?
BG: Well, let's see. Well, you know, more broadly, I'm a believer in the
game-ification of the world. I think video game design is the new MBA. Video
game design is valuable in education, in internet portals, in advertising, in
product design, in entertainment media design as well. Video games are so
compelling that people who grow up playing video games will have their habits
and world views shaped forever.
I could see that being true. I think at
GDC, you said something about there being more game designers out there than we
need for once. And I think you said something like, "We don't need a
bailout for the game industry. We need the game industry to bail out the
culture." How would you envision that happening?
BG: Let's see. Specifically, in education and entertainment, I think education
is in dire straits right now. The whole education business. Educators in public
schools find that today's kids are more interested in the real-time self-paced
interactive online, where everything is clickable, world of gaming, than they
are in the boring ass world of text books and prescribed curriculum with
memorization and multiple choice tests.
I
actually think that game-like systems with simulations are the new
manipulatives for learning by doing. I still think there are a lot of learning
habits peer-to-peer, a lot learning habits solo, and self-learning habits of
mentors. But great teachers are not very scalable, and I think new media is
going to bail out the public education system.
In
entertainment, I think every Fortune 500 should have somebody in their exec
staff who grew up playing Nintendo. The NES first became popular in 1987. I
think anyone that was born after 1971 got their driver's license when Nintendo
was popular. Anybody younger than 38 grew up with a Nintendo or video game
culture. I think that any company that's trying to sell to people under 38
needs to be video game smart.
Then you
look at cool web companies like Facebook or like LinkedIn, even like Etsy, they
would all benefit from video game design thinking in their product design or a
sense of how scoring and points and lifetime career personalization and
customization and community and guilds and parties can increase engagement of
consumers under the age 38. Every one of those companies could use a Will
Wright or a Will Wright equivalent kind of on their executive team.