| Robert Usarek |
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Notice the absence of any dates for Natal. Heck, notice the absence of any real name. Which means that its most likely more than a year out. That far out means it may never actually make it to the 360.
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| Peter Park |
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This press conference is largely a massive hype-driving event, and in that view, MS has delievered--Even if Natal is more than a year away. The prospective of dramatically changing the way we game, along with working demo, is surely a striking stuff.
I was starting to regret my choice of Xbox360 as my console, but after the conference, I feel very content, knowing that my console has a bright future. |
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| Robert Usarek |
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The point isn't that its far away, it that its far away enough not to make the 360 lifetime.
As to social networking, not sure its the big thing. Its one thing to use a phone to check or th shirk work and keep updated. Its another to purposely turn on advice with poor keyboard input to check and update text. |
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| Joshua Sterns |
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Dates or no dates this press conference got me thinking about the future of gaming. I hope that Sony and Nintendo have something equally inspiring.
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| gren ideer |
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The Natal "vision" video is just that, a hopeful vision of what the technology can become. The tech isn't good enough yet to do what they want it to do, and it will take a while (at least 2 years) for that to happen.
I thought Microsoft had a weak event as far as big reveals were concerned, but they had a solid showing of titles. Aging Alan Wake visuals still had a cool light mechanic and a release date. The Halo game has low res textures unfortunately. The crappy interface for facebook and twitter don't excite me but the cross marketing will be a good thing for them. Overall I think either of the other two big events can beat this one. |
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| Richard Cody |
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I think it was a very solid show. I mean you can't help but realize they're feeding the old core gamers more of the old rich manure they love (I like some of it too).
But Natal does have that potential. I thought EyeToy was capable of that type of thing but it's so clearly a great step into gaming simplicity. Good move. I'm picky but I might snag one early. Facebook and Twitter are solid add-ons. The article is right that they're massive for Microsoft and more of just a really decent convenience for the users. |
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| Christopher Plummer |
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The Natal with no demo at E3 is such a fraud. I'm glad imaginations were stimulated by what won't be, I just don't understand why everyone is willing to suspend disbelief for Microsoft when there's already an EyeToy and Voice Recognition available. Remember this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1123221217782777472 ?
I thought the conference was pretty weak - The only meaningful parts for me were in the Quiet Triumph section - but in all fairness I sold my 360 because franchises like Halo, Forza, and Crackdown don't do much for me. |
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| Rayco Santana |
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Christopher Plummer: Natal its nothing like EYEtoy, Natal detects 3D movements in real time, the eyetoy its just a regular camera with a motion sensor, the EYEtoy can neither detect 3D movement or 3D shapes like Natal does...
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| Shane Hendrickson |
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Natal is an intriguing distraction from normal games. Nothing more. I am really interested to see where they can take it, but Leigh is right: I have no plans to give up my controller. I applaud innovation and hope the Microsoft can really make something out of this, but I really don't think it's a very big deal to us 'core' gamers. MS had some great looking game footage (for games we already knew about) though so I think they put on a fairly solid presentation.
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| David Mata |
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I think people are missing what Natal means. More than just a product, this is hardcore R&D that's going on right now, that even if IT never materializes, the research will be built into other products and peripherals.
This is something our industry has needed for a long time, especially since the best we've gotten so far is an oddly shaped TV remote that you can wave like a wand. |
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| Dan Robinson |
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Last year a company called 3DV demoed a motion sensing camera product at CES, gaining lots of praise. Reuters reported in February that the company was purchased by Microsoft. Just today the parent company of 3DV announced it had completed the sale of all of its assets to a third party.
This camera is real. The only question I have is will it be ready for the holiday 2009 shopping season? |
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| Tom Newman |
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Natal is something Microsoft has been talking about way before they even got into the video game business. Bill Gates has always said that the future of computing may not need any analog user interface, your computer will recognize you, and you will be able to talk to it. This goes way beyond what current camera/mic "toys" currently can do, and will change the face of computing and gaming. This is just the seed, but that is important.
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| Joel Bennett |
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Wait, Alan Wake has a release date?! When did that happen?!
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| Craig Hamilton |
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Fan boys amaze me. You have no idea when/if Natal will come out. You say at least 2 years? You are clueless. Stop acting like Microsoft has your number on speed dial. Development kits for Natal were shipped already. Every article that I have read about the MS conference has been a good one. I enjoy all the systems and the unique aspects that they each have to offer. I don't want to hear your one sided dribble, whoever it supports.
Like others have said, at the very least Natal is an important stride in the direction of 3D/motion recognition, even if it doesn't make it to this generation. Yet, what if it does? We are seeing another wonderful addition to the gaming world. |
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| Brighton gardiner |
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@Robert.
The biggest pitfall of the Vision Camera was the lack of developer support. There just was no real reason to own a vision Camera. So I'm sure we will see Natal come out on the market when there are some games to back it. Then you will see developers work at targeting and expanding that sub-user base. Don't call it vaporware when its just been announced. |
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| Paul Lazenby |
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Wow, is everyone in our industry this jaded?
Seriously, i think we need to look at what this really is: A really cool tech demo of something that has a lot of potential if and when it comes out in its current form. And if it doesn't, then it will be in another way. More varied tech is a win/win for the consumer, regardless of who develops it. @ Dan Robinson - Yeah, absolutely right. Did no one else remember this? |
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| Dan Robinson |
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As far as vaporware...
The guys at the Nerdworld blog at time.com tried the system out at Microsoft on a 360 running Burnout off the shelf. Quote: "...playing Burnout with no controller, just holding up your empty hands like a steering wheel and pushing your foot forward to accelerate, that is an intense experience. And this is just straight Burnout code, in no way optimized or adapted for Natal. When people start dedicating teams to writing for Natal, very interesting things will happen..." Complete post: http://nerdworld.blogs.time.com/2009/06/02/thoughts-about-microsofts-project-nat al-e3-halo-etc/ |
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| Evan Combs |
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It might just be me, but from what I saw it seemed like they could have this out and on the market within a year if they wanted. Really the only thing that would delay the release would be not having any games that took advantage of it. I'm sure it isn't perfectly ready, and they don't have all the features working perfectly. What they showed though wasn't technology that was brand new. Really it was just taking existing technologies, putting it all together into one device, improving on the technologies, and writing the software required to make these technologies applicable for games.
Also as someone brought up earlier, I would imagine it would have a separate CPU included since the 360 wasn't designed with this idea in mind. |
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| michael meginley |
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Evan, yes it will have a seperate cpu.
Microsoft says the Natal sensor combines an RGB camera, a depth sensor, a multi-array microphone, and a "custom processor running proprietary software." |
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| Kurt Elkins |
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I hate to say this but we developed this in a small company in the late 80's for use with an AI system. This thing had to retain what it saw to "learn" which meant it burned through a scsi drive array. I can easily see this thing coming out by spring and I am truly amazed that a unit like this hasn't been brought to market before this.
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| Olivier B. Deland |
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Project Natal is overhyped. Who said I wanted to move when I play? I want mind control.
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| Tawna Evans |
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I'm a gamer that plays games on Facebook. Getting people to play Xbox live with from existing Facebook friends seems appealing. This tempts me to buy an Xbox 360. However, the notion of paying a monthly XBox fee to do so keeps me hesitant to do so. For now, I stick with enjoying the free online games I play on Facebook.
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