Have you ever played Thor? It's a Saturn action-RPG done by Ancient, with Yuzo Koshiro. It was released over here as Legend of Oasis.

SM: Oh yeah, I have that! But I haven't really played it. The music was by Yuzo Koshiro, and I bought it because of that. I'm a huge fan of his. Oh! And I thought of an RPG I like - Ys! That was the first action RPG I thought was really amazing. The Hudson one.

Yeah, I'm a big fan of the PC Engine. But the original was done by Falcom...

SM: Falcom did the PC-88 one, but Hudson did the PC Engine version. That version is really great. And I became a fan of Yuzo Koshiro because of that.

And oddly, the music in Legend of Oasis was not that exciting.

SM: Yeah, to me it was kind of boring, actually.

But the game design is very good. It's very puzzle-based. You can jump on everyone's head, and then that person walks around, and you can get on top of a building from there, and get higher and higher. You can throw things down on top of people and then pick it up somewhere else.

SM: You're some kind of game maniac, what's wrong with you? Not even Japanese people know most of these things. Embarrassing!

I like old things, what can I say? I'm a 2D fan. Recently, more 2D games are starting to come out again, because of Virtual Console and Xbox Live Arcade.

SM: Yeah, that's true, lately I've been buying all the old games as they come out on Virtual Console, especially the Konami ones! I just got Castlevania actually. There was an MSX collection on PlayStation 3 that's available on the PlayStation Network. I think that's good stuff.

It's funny, because MSX was funded by Microsoft.

SM: Yeah that's strange, eh? Konami was the best on the MSX, back in those days.