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I tend to think people will move on to the next fad, rather than joining a whole other website. Unless, of course, zynga.com becomes the next fad. I think Yo-Yos are due for a comeback though.
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| Aaron McPherson |
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The main advantage of this development, as I see it, is that it will allow people who are dedicated to these games to avoid irritating their friends and family with dozens of irrelevant posts. In order to progress in these games, you have to post a message to your wall every time you need a specific item or component. In the beginning, this wasn't too much of a problem, but with so many different games, the flow of messages can overwhelm your Facebook page, undermining its intended purpose. Also, many games reward you for having more "neighbors," which is a problem if you don't have many friends who are into this activity. The invention of zFriends should help players avoid having to friend people they don't really know in order to progress in their games. In short, it should benefit both Facebook and Zynga to have more of a separation between the Facebook platform and the games.
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| Luis Guimaraes |
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That awkward moment when Facebook's metrics for "active" users aren't optimistic enough...
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| Deanna Whaley |
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I will more likely go to zFriends to play Zynga games then play them on Facebook. They always annoyed me on FB so I would end up "hiding" all posts from friends that played them so I wouldn't have to see them. I had always hoped that Zynga would have come out with a FB game that would allow non-FarmVillers, etc. to get on their friends' farms (maybe as an animal) and steal their crops and kill their chickens...then it would be like taking care of a real farm with farmers having to protect their assets and make it more challenging.
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| Dedan Anderson |
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"The feature, says the company, should keep players engaged longer" ? I guess spamming is a feature, i always thought a sure fire way to keep people engaged is by making a GOOD GAME - silly me.
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| Jason Lee |
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I'm for this, and while I think social games are here to stay I don't think facebook games are. Whatever the 'next big' social website is, it's going to have games built into its design. Meanwhile, facebook was never intended to be a gaming platform, and I think some issues like inability to be synchronous and other limitations is what bred Farmville and the army of asocial skinner boxes we see now.
The completely cynical answer will be all the 'damage' of Zynga will be self contained in their little website instead of all over our facebook, but I honestly think a new platform change will open up new affordances for design possibilities, fresh metrics that will reinforce real social interactions + strong design = more profitability, and we might actually get some real games out of the Big Z. |
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| Darcy Nelson |
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I think it's weird that Facebook is being treated as something that's getting in the way of users' enjoyment of Zynga games, when Facebook is the vehicle by which non-gamers got exposed to those apps in the first place. Also, I kind of hate myself for this but I can't help but think that Zynga is taking a page out of Playfish's book here. (IE, central website with loads of casual games, its own currency.)
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| Dave Smith |
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if Zynga can leverage their success on Facebook to make real, enjoyable games, i'm all for it. i seriously doubt their management has the ability or vision to successfully make the transition.
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| Elton Britto |
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I believe this would be a good move. Since people wont have to add random people just to play games over facebook. Leaving social network to just networking and not unnecessary game requests. Zyngas platform would also cater to the gaming audience who would have a huge pool of people to choose from just for sake of social gaming. Believe this will click since this would be one big gaming community.
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| Nooh Ha |
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Wow, there are some remarkably naieve and puerile comments here. Zynga makes games that are primarily targeted at 30+ females. They may not appeal to you nor meet your design or gameplay expectations but they are not targeted at you in the first place so complaining that they are "not real games" is like me saying Baseball or Basketball are not enjoyable or valid sports because I don't like them. They quite clearly do appeal to Zynga's target market as evidenced by their $1bn+ annual revenues and 153m unique players/mth. If you want to complain, complain to the 45 year old moms that form the heart of this playerbase. Zynga are simply listening to what they want from a game and catering to their needs.
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| Harry Fields |
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So the dog is biting the hand that fed them. Classic.
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| Fiore Iantosca |
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and the stock just passed their high mark. As someone posted here before, very naive comments from posters here. Just because YOU don't like Zynga doesn't mean they won't be successful. You are NOT their target market.
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| Guyal Sfere |
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They're a public company now, so when the discussion is "Zynga", it literally is all about the stock price, independent of what any individual employee of Zynga wants to accomplish. Considering how much this forces companies with rich histories (EA, eg) to focus on profit at the expense of a reduction in the richness and variety of their output, what does that mean for a company where their high water mark for rich gaming content is - so far - somewhere in the neighborhood of FarmVille?
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| Phil Maurer |
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I think you are horribly wrong. As Zynga is still going to require FB login, and use FB currency, this is just fluff. This will not be a real step to divorce from FB.
All I see is another attempt to bolster the over inflated market cap on Zynga. Lets be honest they have been declining numbers for years, everything they said in the past was BS, and they got called out on it when they went public. Zynga is the Enron of gaming. |
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| Tomas Majernik |
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Anybody else thinking, they might be doing their separate system/site to offer gambling services in the future too? I mean, they said (not long ago) they are considering making Zynga Poker "real" poker with real money. This way they could bypass Facebook, which hasn`t been keen of gambling idea in general.
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| Achilles de Flandres |
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I think this is a really good idea.
The whole reason why I dont' play Zynga games or any games for that matter on FaceBook is because I don't want to annoy everyone I know with constant updates about my Farm/City/Castle. And I don't like getting annoyed when my friends bug me to join their Mafia. I would be interested in playing these games on a different client, where you know people are on there because they want to play games. |
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| Bruno Patatas |
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Ha, I just love the comments on Gamasutra every time there is a Zynga related article.
"Are the "45 year old moms" that "form the heart of the playerbase" really asking for these games?" No, they aren't. Spread throughout the world, Zynga has a group of agents who enter in peoples homes forcing them to play. "Do they really have needs being catered by them?" Can anyone explain me what kind of needs games like GOW or COD cater to? It's like if outside social games, all the games are this big epics that change the player's life and his perception of the Universe! This is a great move from Zynga, and can't wait to see how they will develop their third-party publisher side. And while a lot of people is crying and moaning that Zynga doesn't make games (what is a game, then?), Pincus is laughing on his way to the bank. The success of Zynga is proven, and for quite some years that people are saying it's a fad. It has been quite a long fad, hey? |
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| Cody Scott |
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Zynga just bit the hand that feeds them
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| Joshua Oreskovich |
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It's sad to see an easily identifiable potentially awesome vehicle for gaming is so rigid in it's terms. I think Zynga will pay the piper. Ultimately it's a bad idea for Facebook to ignore their potential and grow with the market working hand in hand with game companies .. but then again maybe they are just trying to get rid of Zynga, I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe they paid them to leave?
No insult, it's just that Facebook and games seems to hold a some very non mainstream values. And by letting go of Zynga they can push forward. |
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| Troy Walker |
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considering Facebook just did a faceplant on the market of speculation.. they've forcasted the doom of Facebook's viability in the long term.
probably the right decision in the long run.. doubtful a great success in any direction. |
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