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  MechWarrior Creator Weisman On IP Rights: 'Don't Sell 'Em' Exclusive
by Chris Remo [PC, Console/PC, Exclusive]
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August 21, 2009
 
 MechWarrior  Creator Weisman On IP Rights: 'Don't Sell 'Em'

FASA founder Jordan Weisman, co-creator of BattleTech/Mechwarrior, Shadowrun, and Crimson Skies -- and one of the game industry's perpetual entrepreneurs -- has learned a lot over his long career about managing intellectual property.

He now licenses the game rights to those franchises back from owner Microsoft at his latest venture, the cross-media company Smith & Tinker, which also fully owns the ambitious children's franchise Nanovor.

So what exactly has Weisman learned about property rights? "Don't sell 'em," he told Gamasutra flatly in a recent interview.

Starting with pen-and-paper games and moving into a number of different entertainment segments, the now-defunct FASA Corporation and FASA Interactive once managed an impressive array of fictional universes, most of which are now tied up in a convoluted ownership mess.

"You know, for twenty years, or a little less, we carefully managed those properties MechWarrior and Shadowrun," Weisman said. "We made sure all the video games, the novels, the games were all really woven together. It was all..."

He trailed off, then started to lay out the state of FASA's former assets: "We ended up selling both companies off to two different people. WizKids bought FASA, and then Topps bought WizKids, and then [Michael] Eisner bought Topps."

"Now, sort of, Eisner owns the movie rights, and all the story rights for MechWarrior, and Microsoft has the video games. And then I license the video game rights back from Microsoft."

Weisman added that this didn't just add complexity to the legal state of the properties, it had a direct negative effect on the brands. "Once that ownership got a little fractured, it became really difficult to manage cohesively," he said," and I think the property suffered."

Still, the recent announcement of a new MechWarrior title -- and unconfirmed rumors about some other classic FASA properties making a return -- indicates Weisman has no intention of letting the worlds he helped conceive fall into disrepair, even if he no longer owns them.

"One of the motivations on licensing it back was to get it back on track and create a more cohensive home for it," Weisman explained, "so I'm working with Eisner and his people, and with Microsoft, and we're trying to do this in a much more cohesive fashion again."
 
   
 
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Kyle DeFoe
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Please let there be another great shadowrun game released!

Ian Morrison
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I'm just hoping that Mechwarrior is friggin' amazing so the franchise boots up again. I've got some fond memories of MW3 and 4.

Thomas Grove
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But Tim, his main point was not about being compensated for his IP, his main point was having moral rights over all formats to insure cohesion and integrity. He could of just moved on to new IP, but clearly he's passionate about these specific IPs.

Thomas Grove
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Or I really should have written that last sentence: Not only has he moved on to new IP, but he's also clearly passionate about these specific IPs.

Jeff Zugale
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Good advice.

Crimson Skies II for 360? Please?

Chris Remo
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Tim,

You don't have to sell IP to a company you control if you own the company itself. If you own the company, and it's a private company, there is no way for you to lose control of it without your consent. Weisman made the choice to sell FASA -- it wasn't forced from his grip -- and he apparently regrets it.

Alan Rimkeit
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Please can we have a single player decision tree based multi-character RPG with moral choices and multiple endings that is as deep as KOTOR or Mass Effect set in the Shadowrun world for the PC? If done right this game would be so awesome. I still remember playing Shadowrun on my SNES. What a deep RPG for that period of gaming! Those were great times.

Dave Smith
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yeah the SNES Shadowrun was fantastic.

Timothy Ryan
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IP is your most valuable asset after your team (i.e dev company). Both go up or down in value based on performance. While the team has direct control over their performance, when the IP is licensed out and developed by others as games or other formats, you lose that control. I think everyone would assume that Microsoft should have been a good shepherd for the IP that made Activision a mint. Mech Assault was a good transition to console, but it could not replace the tactile cockpit experience of using a flight-stick on your PC. I certainly am eager to play a new MechWarrior game on PC, though I'll have to buy a new flight stick.

Tommy Hanusa
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I <3 Giant Robots

just thought you should know...

MechWarrior 4 was a happy time in my life, I'm gonna start watching battlemech.com for that free download. I can't wait to see what you guys do next too.

I still love giant robots...

Kevin Maloney
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Shadowrun is still around I have a regular crew that hits Seattle every Sunday. Its a great universe and if you made sure you had the resources for it Shadowrun could make the baddest MMO ever.

Wizards+rocket launchers == win;

Alan Rimkeit
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@Kevin Maloney: No no no no. No MMO. I am sick of MMO's. What needs to be done is a huge, deep, gritty, adult oriented, single player RPG set in Shadowrun. Someone needs to give Bioware and Bethesda a run for their money in the American RPG venue.

Timothy Ryan
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@Tim Carter: Agreed. Publishers insist on owning IP if they're paying for everything and taking all the risk. I think that's where alternative funding comes in handy. However, I think Jordan's case is different, since these were already successful properties compared to brand new IP. There's less risk for the publisher since they already had proven themselves and had a built-in following. He could have licensed them for a period of time rather than selling them the IP in perpetuity. That way the IP doesn't languish when Microsoft decides not to publish the games anymore. The hassles he's dealing with now could have been avoided.

I know Jordan personally. His abilities as a game designer are not limited by his current IP woes. He's probably the most imaginative person I know.

Evan Combs
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Tim I really don't understand why you say if you hold onto an IP you suddenly won't have the time to create new IP's? If you own the IP you can choose either to do something with it or not do something with it. If you aren't doing anything with it it just sits there, and you have all the time in the world to create a new IP. If you do choose to do something with it yes you will be limited, but in neither circumstance does an IP force you to not create another IP.

Tim Carter
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Evan, if you follow the standard game dev route, if you - personally - want to benefit from an IP you - personally - are an original core creator of, you have to build a studio to make the game, then you build a vertical slice, then you pitch it, then a publisher pays and advance and basically buys it.

Now you have Game X. But you have to make Game X2. But Game X2 isn't a new game. It's just the same IP, with some more content and features. It isn't a new game.

Plus, since you are a studio - instead of a free agent - you gotta pay the overhead. That means you can't take time off and think of something new; no you have to get onto the next project - which is usually a sequel. So whatever idea you had for a different IP - a non-Game X2 - you have to put on the backburner for some distant time. You're too busy managing the studio you made.

I think the guys who did Age of Empires recently ran into this issue. They cranked out so many sequels that now they can't do anything but RTS games. They want to do something new, something other than an RTS, but they're stuck - the publishers only think of them as RTS-makers now. So I heard.

I suppose this is a good situation for some people though - who only want to design one game, then crank out millions of sequels for it. But if you see all kinds of possibilities to design a wide range of games, it's constraining.

Evan Combs
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Why must you work on Game X2 though? What force forces you to work on the sequel. You are assuming that when a developer has a successful IP that there must be a sequel, which is not true. Just because you make a successful game doesn't mean you have to make a sequel. You can move on from that IP onto a new IP. You are assuming that you have to make Game X2 when it is completely your choice to make Game X2, there is nothing forcing you to continue expanding on that IP.

Cole Kleinschmit
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Why can't a developer enter into a licensing agreent with a publisher instead of selling th IP outright? they would have exclusive rights to publish, promote, and so on, but NOT to create derivative works or transfer license or medium. After a lot of trial, error, wasted time and tears caused by complete transfer of ownership, many other industries are adopting limited licensing models.


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