Want. Wish it was for sale on Amazon already, grrr.

Ugh, Still no Blu-Ray, No thanks. I still can get more with the competitor for the same price.

"whisper quiet" makes me wonder if it has enough cooling to stave off the red rings.

Where was this two years ago?

Blu-Ray shmooray. Who cares? I just use my PS3 to attract dust, making my apartment easier to clean.

There is a statement somewhere that Microsoft will not support Blu-Ray....ever.

Blu-Ray? Seriously? Physical media is dead.



Get Netflix.

I'm dying for the full specs on the mobo their using in the new redesign! Then, I might bite.. until then, mine has been running pretty smoothly. XXXXXX (crosses fingers)

Back to black, this reminds me a lot of the original xbox, but with a sexier shine.

I have the wi fi n adapter for my 360 and am wondering if slim is just packing 802:11g or 802:11n?

If they cheaped out and went with g can i use my n 360 adapter on slim or no dice.



I love netflix though avatar looks so much better in 1080p and until we ALL have super fast internet you still can't beat blu.



The new final fantasy is better on ps3 because the ps3 was the lead system and because of the storage from blu.



I simply support ps3,360,wii and the portables equally .

"Ugh, Still no Blu-Ray, No thanks. I still can get more with the competitor for the same price. "



Ignorance is bliss

@wes

it's n, not the older g.



and there is talk already about the smaller size bringing back the rrod problem that jasper chips had solved. looks nice tho

@Buck: Talk? Or baseless rumors?



Given how much the RROD issue cost Microsoft, I doubt they'd make the same mistake so soon.

It's not really slim like the ps3 but anyways I want it into my hands!

@doug



engineering principle. less room for heatsinks and stricter ventilation within a slimmer design may be enough to negate the benefits of the hardier jasper chip's construction.



engineers have been discussing how the xbox slim is driven by a need to cut manufacturing costs... which is how microsoft got caught up in the rrod crisis. hope jasper is up to the task because microsoft needs a break from a hardware standpoint.

sorta want. my biggest question is high do I have transfer my saved data from my current hard drive to the new hardrive? if it's quick and painless, then I'm definately getting this. built-in WiFi, with Natal, and 2 additional USB slots? sign me up.



/don't care about blu-ray. seriously, who buys blu-ray movies anyway? physical media is going the way of the do-do.

@achilles



the hdd cable is $15 us to transfer. i believe it was bundled with some of the 120gb hdd but here's an article for those who, like achilles, want to know more:



http://gear.ign.com/articles/109/1097523p1.html



PS: authenticate data notification. when you transfer your data to a new console you have to be online to be able to access any dlc content you had purchased and downloaded to the previous machine. an example i have run into of this is in rock band/guitar hero games, if i highlight a dlc song without having my console connected to xboxlive, the game kicks me to the main menu with a message saying "can't authenticate".



just an fyi. not a big problem, it's there to keep data from being pirated to various hdd's.

@Buck: I heard some estimates that put Microsoft's RROD replacement cost at over 1 billion USD ( http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aOrvYZ2gPwZk&refer=home ).



I understand that smaller size (with all other things being equal) can mean increased heat, but I personally doubt Microsoft will release another 360 with over-heating issues.

the gpu and cpu are integrated into one 45(?)nm chip, and the unit has 1 giant fan instead of 2 lil ones. Also, it consumes less power, so I don't think rrod will be an issue.

@wes: I'm pretty sure it's an n adapter.



@everyoneelse: For all of you complaining about lack of Blu-ray... it was obvious. I don't know what made you think we would get Blu-ray, but they're not going to abandon all of their prior games mid-generation. Once MSFT goes Blu-ray, they instantly lose backwards compatibility to themselves; imagine the PR stunts required to get themselves out of that one. Next generation, buddies, next generation.



@achilles: It's a simple HD recovery through accounts. Should be painless, don't know so much about quick. Haven't done it myself, but I plan to as soon as I get this. My launch 360 finally died on me a month ago, so I guess it's perfect timing. Your online account should know all the games/DLC you've downloaded, and I'm guessing it's a re-download.

@ Danny Pampel



" Want. Wish it was for sale on Amazon already, grrr. "



Not only is the 360 "Slim" on sale on Amazon right now, it's gone straight to the # 1 ranking on the Amazon sales rankings charts for video games . That's the first time the 360 has been # 1 on Amazon since 2005.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_ts_zgc_vg_video_games_dis
play_on_website_more/187-1575914-5607719?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=right-5&p
f_rd_r=08K0D7FRCE87WE52J5XQ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=475985451&pf_rd_i=468642



The 360 normally ranks at around #50+ on Amazon. June NPD (when we eventually get it), should be very interesting.



UPDATE:

Sold out on Amazon.

@ Doug Poston



"I understand that smaller size (with all other things being equal) can mean increased heat,"



Smaller chips (45 nm) mean less heat, less power used and lower costs.

@ Jason

Blu-ray drive plays reg DVD so i dont think people are looking for a media format change for games. Its a reasonable request for a box that MSFT is positioning as a media hub. No?



@ world

Not for nothing but me thinks that thing borrows from the PS3 (some aesthetics and bulletpoint features) that with addition of Kinect they just turned the xbox in to a broadly appealing if uninspired console. I really dont know how i feel about it.

Marco Devarez





" Its a reasonable request for a box that MSFT is positioning as a media hub. No?"





You dont need Blu-ray to be a media hub.

Digital downloads is the way to go.





"Not for nothing but me thinks that thing borrows from the PS3 (some aesthetics and bulletpoint features "





I don't see any similarities between the looks of the 360 Slim and the PS3 (fat or Slim). In fact, they couldnt be more different in looks.

@ Kevin Jones





" "I understand that smaller size (with all other things being equal) can mean increased heat,"



Smaller chips (45 nm) mean less heat, less power used and lower costs. "



As far as I understand it, it's a bit more complicated than that. Smaller circuitry means a higher resistance for a given conductor, which means more heat, but then smaller circuitry requires less current to carry information and potentially less voltage to flip states which results in less power, which results in less heat. Cost wise it's complicated too. Smaller circuitry means more dies/chips per silicon wafer (one of the key components that costs so much), which means lower cost per unit. But smaller circuitry processes mean higher defect rates which means higher costs per unit - this become less significant over time, but before the process really matures it remains considerable and more expensive than the previous generation for a long while. Then again, increases in cost on the chip may be offset by savings on costs for power transformers and cooling fans.



Integrating the CPU and GPU into one die may decrease the motherboard cost (and putting the heat sources one place gains some cooling efficiency relative to two separated sources), but the increased die area significantly increases the probability of a die breaking manufacturing defect, which ends up more expensive than two separate dies of equivalent total area. Like I said, it's a bit complicated.

@Kevin, yeah I saw it later on Amazon and bought one. Then I canceled it a minute later. I mean, where is my holiday bundle dammit? :)

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