| Owen McNamara |
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LOL They're still pointing fingers at Postal 2? That game is seven years old. Did Soldier of Fortune 2 make it into the discussion too? What about Doom, or Wolfenstein 3D?
There's no case when using the games themselves as evidence, as the only way the prosecution could do so is by dropping the context of the games. Postal 2 was entirely about satire, in the same vein as South Park. |
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| Brandon Davis |
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The problem with SCOTUS is that it is made up of lawyers who have their sinecures based on political orientation. As such, they are merely mediocre lawyers/bureaucrats. In the final analysis, they can do little else except parrot whatever mundane political beliefs that they are able conjure up.
They are prone to be neither aware of any of the research into the subject, nor have they actually experienced the the playing of video games. And then we have Justice Thomas who reportedly likes porn, and is a binge alcoholic. I can see him voting for regulation, just to appear more pious than he is. |
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| Kevin Reilly |
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Brandon, you can disagree with the particular POV a justice, but I don't know anyone with a law degree that would consider them to be "mediocre" in their credentials or intellect. Read the transcript, it's entertaining to say the least. The ability to play video games has no relevance as to whether SCOTUS can apply the First Amendment to content based speech regulations. That is well within their wheelhouse and they certainly had a good grasp of the issues before them. Extra points for Sotomayor for pointing out CA failed to challenge the 9th Circuit's ruling on the "18" label, which was also found unconstitutional as being "forced" speech.
As for the actual questioning, I think Scalia, Ginsburg, Kagan and Sotomayor tended to be harsher towards the CA attorney's arguments. Roberts, Alito and Breyer really beat up the ESA and may be receptive to allowing CA experiment with regulating violent content. Kennedy and Thomas were both fairly silent. Which is a concern because those 2 really can swing the decision towards upholding or striking down the law. |
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| Ardney Carter |
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Reading through it now. About half-way done. Agree with Kevin that it's an extremely entertaining read. The Justices are absolute beasts when it comes to their questions. And I also appreciate the fact that they constantly call the lawyers out when they try to scoot around a question. It's really good stuff.
My (admittedly uneducated) opinion is that it's still anyone's game. It's true the AG didn't do so well with his opening, but the ESA rep never seemed to give a solid answer to the Justices as to why enactment of the legislation would be so bad. The back and forth regarding "common sense" didn't seem to go too well for the ESA rep IMO. [edit]Ok, he turned it around at the very end. "MR. SMITH: Our rules wouldn't help you at all. They say that they are only restricting a smaller number, a small subset of M-rated games, which by the way, we say are appropriate for 17-year-olds. So these ratings that the state wants us to impose are going to conflict with the ratings that are already on the packaging" |
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| Mike Lopez |
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It is kind of funny they chose Postal 2 because it plays into the stereotypes of stodgy old dudes who are decidedly outdated and un-hip. :)
But I'm thinking they strategically chose to focus on Postal 2 because of its limited success (no wonder with a 63% rating) and because it was published by a dinky, bottom tier publisher. Were they to have focused on Grand Theft Auto or Call of Duty they would have had a huge fan base to overcome in the court of popular opinion, as well as a very large publisher with deep enough pockets to mount an even greater fight against them in the courts and with a PR blitz. Anyone else think that choice is more strategic than it appears at first glance? |
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| Kevin Reese |
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I wonder how the Terminator really feels about violence in entertainment.
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| Steven Andrews |
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After reading the transcript, I think the court is going to lean towards the idea that there is merit to CA's position that it should be able to control the sale of certain content to minors (as it done with sexually explicit material). However, in the specific legislation itself, the defining parameters of what is considered "deviant violence" is too vague to be properly enforced or for a producer to know when they are breaking the law. So my prediction is they'll say the state can make a law regarding the sale of violent material to minors, but not this one.
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| Cody Scott |
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If the supreme court sides with California, I hope every developer and publisher moves their offices out of California and to states that are more open to their business like North Carolina. Here in NC we have a law that gives game developers a tax write off when they purchase capital goods like, desks chairs, computers, software, etc.
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